I NEED YOUR HELP with a turntable purchase


Hello Everyone,

I need your help with my first high end turntable purchase.
I will be purchasing in May.

I am looking for a really good turntable for my system. I am not sure which way to go. I checked out a Spiral Groove, and so far I really like that one, mainly for it's no nonsense approach and the ease of use. I have also heard about Basis, SME. SME seems to get really great reviews and their owners really seem to like them. I don't quite understand the significant upcharge to US customers though.

my budget is around $15-30k, hopefully including tonearm and cartridge. i could spend a bit more if necessary. i am NOT necessarily looking for the most expensive turntable, but I want the most bang for my bucks. The phone preamp will be Audio Research Phono Ref2.

the rest of my system consists of:
Preamp: Audio Research Anniversary Ref 40
Amps: Audio Research 610T
Speakers: Wilson Audio Maxx 3
Digital: dCS Scarlatti stack

I would appreciate and help you can give me.

thanks!!
jon_p
Dear Jon,
As you might have expected, the responses are all over the lot depending upon the bias of the person who posts. Very few of us really have a broad experience of hearing many different expensive turntables in our home systems, which is the only way to make a judgement among them. So, everyone here is correct, and everyone here is also wrong. (Plus, Syntax was being facetious.) There are a few choices that cannot be "wrong", in my own equally insufficiently informed opinion: Walker, Saskia, etc, but most of those would actually exceed your generous budget for this purchase. Another candidate not mentioned should be "The Beat", a direct-drive turntable made by Steve Dobbins in Idaho. If you get an input here from "Thuchan", do take it seriously; he is one guy who HAS heard everything in his home system, although his system preference is very different from yours. By the way, while I like the SOTA Cosmos, I cannot agree that it has "no weaknesses". Suspended, belt-drive turntables have a characteristic sound that is not generally to my taste and includes unstable pitch, at times.
The Basis turntables, especially at their higher end, are works of art visually and technically and are probably the best engineered table made today. I could easily live with their Ovation or their newest beauty

Yes, they are the most serious ones. He found the solutions where others fail.
I personally dont agree with the suspension beltdrive unstable pitch story of lewm.
I would not go for a unipivot arm , but with a more rigid arm construction with bearings on eather side , for example sme v or da vinci for example(beautiful) .
And than take a good stable record drive mechanism.
There are many choices and the better/quiter the drive the more neutral the sound will be ,Tw acoustic also is nice , i think basis would also be a nice choice and not to expensive .
And to get good things cheaper , go for good secondhand maybe.
Good luck your system definitively needs a great TT set up , wonderfull system by the way.
I also saw a secondhand rockport sirius 2 for sale on the net for a little bit over 10000 euros , always nice to get a classic in .
I run an Avid Volvere TT with an Origin Illustriuos tonearm and an Ortofon Per Winfield cartridge. Incredable vinyl!!
I havent had a problem with fluctuating speed on either my Oracle, Sota or VPI. The Sota especially is rock solid once it starts turning and settles down after about 3 seconds. So sure, when you first put the record on, and clamp it, the platter moves on its suspension, but not appreciably thereafter. Ive seen much more movement of the arm and stylus due to warps or eccentric records than because of suspension movement during play.