TW-Acustic Raven 10.5 or DaVinci Grandezza??

Dear Thuchan: You can't be serious. Do you want to read those emails? don'y you care about the deep harm that could make to you and your " partner "? why don't you ask him before?

Do you want I being specific?, ask him. IMHO the best you can do is stay away from this subject because you can be splash with.

++++ " like you are deeply hurt by his argumentation. " ++++

which one? on which subject? which kind of argumentation other than his " children's tales " for ignorants?.
Please don't let me laugh again and again but thank's for this: you make my day!

God made it and the " fortune " put together!!!, you are lucky now that belongs to that german group that you rejected in the past. I hope they ( he ) is not only " using you " for now.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

I own the 12" DaVinci Ref Grandezza and have not heard the Raven 10.5 but I have also owned a dozen different tonearms and currently have 6 of them mounted on operating turntables.
The DaVinci is a particularly fine performer which has never received a poor review from any owners that I am aware of?
It can beat some of the finest arms ever made on certain cartridges.....for instance, with the ZYX UNIverse......it beats the Continuum Copperhead and Fidelity Research FR-66S.
It also can sound rather well with higher compliance MM cartridges which, with many modern arms, is often not the case.
From an aesthetic and quality point of view, I agree with Dertonarm that the DaVinci will become a design 'Classic' if it not already is?
For what it's worth......it is also Jon Valin's favourite current pivot arm :^)

Dear Luna, I think the person who could give you sound advice (pun intended) regarding TW 10.5 is Dev. I also own Raven, and considering buying TW 10.5 . But after seeing Dev sold his, owning for so short time, I'm having second thought.

For fast reselling, nothing beat Breuer. The last one on Audiogon, now you see it, now you don't. Gone in 60 seconds.

Cheers,

Gee Halcro, you say all those nice things about the Grandezza and then end up by saying it is a favorite of JV. Kind of ruins the picture for me. By the way ZYX UNIverse on Talea is possibly one of the best combos I have ever heard in my life.

What's the effective mass of the Copperhead? Those two others are of course high mass, and the fact that they sound good to you with high compliance MMs is at least serendipitous (meaning good to know but rather unexpected good luck), in my view.

Dear Lewm: IMHO the GST-801 with almost any cartridge outperform any SAEC tonearm. Don't take my word for sure, give it a try and if you don't like it I can buy it from you ( I own two-three of them. ) in 500.00!

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.