better phono stage

I also recommend the Herron VTPH-2. It's a great phono pre on it's own but I happened on some vintage Telefunkens that just take it to an unbelievable level.

Thank you all for your wonderfull support you have certaintly open my eyes for the better many good suggestions. Will keep you posted when I buy another phono stage. Keep listening.

To beat a dead horse and join the bandwagon I would also suggest you consider the Herron. I didn't try a slew of options before purchasing mine but have never thought of replacing it since I put it in my system. Keith is one fine person to deal with and you would be getting an extremely well made, glorious sounding, quiet and musical piece. The Herron just does everything right and gets out of the way so you can enjoy your music collection.

Hi Needfreestuff. My front end is similar to what you have. I have a VPI Classic TT with VPI Zephyr cartridge. My linestage is an ARC Ref 3. BTW, you didn't mention the name of the manufacturer of your Ref 3, so I am assuming it's an ARC model.

My phono pre is an ARC PH-7. It works hand-in-glove with the Ref 3. I think there is a natural synergy between the Ref 3 and PH-7.

Again, assuming we are talking about an ARC Ref 3, if your budget is about $3K, I suggest that you try to pick up a used PH-7, which goes for a little more than $3K. Alternatively, ARC just came out with the PH-6, which lists for $3600. Based on informal conversations with ARC folks, I hear that the PH-6 sounds almost as good as the PH-7. As I mentioned above, I think that system synergy is something to think about.

Good luck.

Yes I do have the ARC Ref 3 and the PH 6 could be a good fit. Thanks for the response I wasnt even aware of a PH 6.
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