HELP-woofer moves alot when playing lps


Hi-
When I play a record on my TT, I get an excessive amount of woofer movement, even when no music is playing. When I lift the arm off the record with the finger lever, the movement stops, and the phono stage is dead quiet. Its only when I drop the needle and turn it up a bit, the woofer starts to move in and out. I dont get this when playing cds, only lps. I have my system on a shelves, with the table onto and my integrated amp directly under my TT. Might this be an isolation issue? Thanks in advance.
tbromgard
Hi Atmasphere,
**Woofer pumping is a symptom of an incorrect cartridge setup, wherein the cartridge compliance combined with the effective mass of the arm causes the combination to have a mechanical resonance outside the range of about 7-12Hz.**

That's possible but often a compliant cartridge on a med/heavy arm won't cause pumping, even if it's resonating at 6Hz. Acoustic or mechanical feedback is a much more likely cause. Turntables on top of equipment racks, susceptible to mechanical shock, are more prone to have problems. They are likely to have problems even when there is no cu/arm mass mismatch.
Regards,
Fleib, there is another thread on this subject that is current as of this writing, that does address this issue also:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1315713166&&&/Cartridge-Loading-and-Compliance-Laws

Read the posts by Tonywinsc that occur on 09/13/11.
Real cart/arm mismatches are rare these days and hard to accomplish unless one is intentionally doing so. Am I one of the few guys who has the usual number of slightly warped LPs in his collection. That is THE #1 cause of woofer pumping, IME. Generally speaker, because of the way in which ported speakers gather extraneous energy to be released at that tuned frequency does allow ported speakers move more easily and to a greater degree when a warped LP is played. IMO, IME.
My cartridge/tonearm combo is perfect on paper and confirmed thorough a test record. Nevertheless, I would get woofer pumping on some records, but not others, which clearly indicates the problem lies with the record, not the system. This also confirms what KAB describes on its website about the subsonic/infrasonic frequencies being imparted on the recording by the disc cutting system. The KAB filter solved the problem and I never looked back. I think the argument about sound degradation is silly; you actually improve the sound by not wasting your amp power trying to amplify infrasonic frequencies and your speakers trying to reproduce them.
If by some miracle your system is free of rumble problems, God bless you, but for those with well matched carts and tonearms and no isolation problems still experiencing woofer pumping on some records, a good quality subsonic filter is the answer.
You people intrigued me. Now I want to experiment and create big bloody woofer pumping in my system. God bless me.