Turntable speed accuracy

There are some very respected bloggers on these pages that really try to be informative & give honest assessments of what they are trying to achieve or review.
They form their opinions on facts & how components work in their systems or their close friends systems. They form their opinions on their personal experience &
living with the component for a extended period of time. I respect someone who goes to these lengths.

But what irks the hell out of me is the few who love to run their mouths in a very negative way when they have absolutely NO grounds to do so about a particular product.
AKA the NVS! If you don't know what is going on you should keep your mouth shut & learn what the facts are. Or buy one & form your own opinion!

I do understand personal preferences on sound & how products fit our systems & respect each & everyone's opinion.. well maybe not everyone's!
Some products are a good fit for us & some not ( in the scheme of our systems ). We all shoot for a sound that appeals to us. This does not make a product bad.
But in order to voice a opinion that is justified & has credence to their remarks...

#1. Have they had personal experience with a certain product
to voice such a strong negative opinion?
#2. Have they used the product in their OWN system to form their opinion.
#3. Have they done A/B comparisons to form their opinion.

On the NVS, Yes, I do own it & love it. I have owned a good number of Turntables / arms over the years. Some even mentioned in this thread.
I have followed the NVS since it's inception, even before when it was in the planning stages. I was kept abreast on it's development from the start & even was asked my opinion on some of the design features. Yes, I'm friends with Mr. Tinn & no, I do not have a investment with him either. Just a crazy audiophile for the last 40 years.
The fact that it was going to be a DD table, sold me, as this was the direction I wanted to stay on since my first experience with DD. I prefer them.

No one ever said the price was $25K to start... rumors...

No one ( to my knowledge ) ever stated it was better than any other TT. To me nothing is the best. Let's just say this table is damn good & can hold it's own against some of the so called best. IMHO of course.
There are many many great tables & we all have a passion for them otherwise we wouldn't be sharing our experiences.

With a lot of new products that come to market, improvements are made, this is nothing new. I for one, am glad designers do not sit on their hands & say that's it I'm done, I can't do no better.

This table was designed to be a plug & play, that is why it is being shipped completely assembled..... this is nothing new as well, so let's no harp on that.

There were issues with a couple of units shipping wise, thus the change to a less handled crate. Congrats on seeing a problem & correcting it. Believe me the original packing was no slouch.

Please,,,,, let's get our facts straight & not spread a handful of bs rumors. Go listen for yourself, & form your own opinion & not use someone else's misaligned view.

Enjoy the music.

I think Grr6001 summed it all up pretty well.

Unoear,

Regarding:

I heard that you are looking to sell your NVS; are you going to still be planning to continue as a dealer for NVS and JTinn?

In this economy I'm not sure it matters. If you have interest in the NVS I'm sure I can get one. Yes, I have been trying to sell a NVS, the one I have and/or another from stock. In fact I would love to sell about six of them if you know any interested parties.

I just purchased a new car, spent more than I should have, but all of them seem to be too much these days. The warranty on my old car was expiring and it was sink or swim.

Maybe cash flow is not an issue for you, it is for me. I still have a kid in college and my wife lost her job.

Mike L mentioned to me last year that he paid the same for his NVS as you did for yours...was your price around the $12k, or so, that JTinn was selling the NVS for earlier last year?

I speak to Mike Lavigne occasionally, he is always busy because he has about a hundred employees he has to deal with. Frankly I don't see how he does it.

As for price, I have no idea what Mike paid, I never ask.

The price for the NVS that I have, large halo and all the other upgrades is (and has been) always $45K as far as I know.

Not to be snooty with you, but if I owned a DD Rockport I would not give the slightest damn what anyone else had. I would just spin it and listen to some LPs.

Grr6001, Someone did indeed imply that the NVS is the best and he compared it to Rockport, Walker, SME 30 and many others. It was JTinn on his website. I also read that MLavigne thinks his NVS, Telos and Anna cartridge are the best he's ever heard. These seem to be absolute statements or at least the strong opinions of these two members of Audiogon.

I agree with you that if one hasn't heard it, he shouldn't have an opinion, but many of us certainly do. It's a part of these forums for better or for worse.

As this is a thread about turntable speed accuracy, I'm curios to know if Albert or anyone has tested the NVS with a TimeLIne?

Lewm, I don't see anything wrong with my posting above and in general just discussion and nothing else ment by it.

I thought these forums were for such, to share and learn.