Some tables have soul and some not


Why is that? Do you think it is always very subjective?
Say, Nottingham Spacedeck does have it and SME does not even if in some respects SME can be called a better or depending on model much better table.
Thoughts, opinions, name callings ?
inna
In_shore: "Mass loaded designs were not in favour and none of the Micro Seiki's were ever reviewed as far as I can remember."
The Micro-Seiki RX-1500 was reviewed by Steve Watkinson in the November 1987 issue of Stereophile, page 108-110. It was a negative review and MS never recovered from the market place and lost distribution in the west since then. In fact the mass loaded genre never got attention until Dick Olsher gave a rave review to the Aura turntable from New Zealand. Of course, decades of Linn dominance and hardcore Linnies from the likes of Art Dudley didn't help either. The RX-1500 review was probably the worst review from the magazine by a no name reviewer, whose reference turntable is a Sota Star Sapphire. It was rather biased from the get-go by saying...
"Turntables seem to be a frequently targeted item for Japanese manufacturers attempting to break out of the mid-fi mold and expand into the high end. Both Nakamichi and Denon have offered several supposedly audiophile turntable models in recent years which, despite a number of fancy gimmicks, failed to generate much enthusiasm in the audiophile community."

And the writer concludes with this:
"The RX-1500 is the type of product that distinguishes between the true audiophile and the yuppie technofreak. In a sense, it provides a valuable service: the yuppie can at least enjoy audiophile-quality sound. This is more than the high-tech direct-drive turntable wonders from the large Japanese manufacturers allow."
Wow, what drivel! The manufacturer's retort was also a hoot to read. I can't find an online copy of the review but perhaps when I have time I might transcribe the whole thing for all to read.

If you look around in the high end turntable marketplace today, mass loaded designs influenced by Micro-Seiki is everywhere. What does that prove? All the yuppies turned audiophiles? ;-)

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Goog point! Too bad that so many people fall into the Masterminded ideology......and not just in our times....Micro SeIki and Melco are classic designes of the art and will always have their followers as Garrard 301 or 401 has.....
Art Dudley has never really changed. However, he is recently in love with Garrard and Thorens and out of love with Linn LP12. (In_shore, "Linn Ittok" is a tonearm. The turntable is "LP12".) But as recently as last year, Art Dudley scoffed at all direct-drive turntables, remarking that putting the motor so near to the platter made no sense to him in terms of noise. Apparently he has never investigated the construction of the better dd turntables, wherein the platter is essentially the rotor of the motor itself. Ergo, there is no source of noise, only bearing friction can contribute noise, just as for any other type of turntable. How he can diss a whole class of products on the one hand and be so monotheistic about arcane Japanese electronics, like Shindo, on another, is beyond me. But I do think he is a fine writer, in contrast to many.

Prcinka, What's a "Melco"?
HiHo other mid to late 1970s mass loaded designs, Melco including the Final Labs Parthenon from what I understand is a sophisticated advanced design for it's time also from the 1970s. Either ignored or mis-used by TAS if they ever had one to test. Instead the LP12 reins supreme at Sea Cliff during this time period.

Briefly more about the Final Labs member Dover uses one and I think Johnathan Carr of Lyra fame also has one if i'm not mistaken.
Topclass audio have some Melcos and currant production? Final Labs for sale if anyone want to buy one or two.