Which Upgrade First - Cartridge Or Phono Stage


Ok - I have about a $1500 budget to either upgrade my existing cartridge or upgrade my existing phono stage.

I'm currently running a Dynavector 10x5 on a VPI Classic 1 through a PS Audio GCPH.

I have read a lot of good things about the Soundsmith Zephyr and am seriously contemplating it but don't want to over-invest in the cartridge if I'm not going to hear the investment out of my PS Audio GCPH.

The same holds true in reverse.

If I go down the path of phono stage then one of my requirements is that it have XLR out since I just got done investing in new Nordost Heimdall cabling into and out of the phono stage.

So I'm really looking forward to the community's opinions.

Current system consists of the following:
Classe SSP-800
Classe CA-5100
Classe CDT-300
Thiel MCS1 (LCR)
REL Strata III (2)
gharnden
I agree that given your situation, I would also go the cartridge route. I also have a Classic 1 and have tried the Dynavector 20X2L, Benz Glider SM and the Soundsmith Zephyr. All 3 are excellent cartridges, but I ended up settling on the Glider. I really liked the Dynavector, however in my system I have a little bit of a hum issue that comes more into play with the Dynavector's Low output (0.3 mV) vice my Glider's Medium output (0.8 mV). I liked the Soundsmith also, but sometimes found it a little more relaxed than what I was looking for.
Gharnden,

I wasn't suggesting that you buy new cables, but that you don't build your system around them. What I mean by that is when you are selecting equipment, get what you think is the best sounding even if it is not the best match sound wise to the cables you have. You can always upgrade cables at a later date. Also, if you find a single ended phono preamp you like, you can just get an xlr to rca adaptors and use your nordost.
A good ( I mean, a real good one) Phonostage simply delivers you more information from any connected cartridge. But, getting a good Phonostage (one, which does not sound like a dead stone) is much more difficult than getting a good sounding cartridge. You would be amazed how many carts sound really good, even a Denon 103R can give very satisfying results (overall probably better ones than Koetsus for example).
But, there is not only one way to Paradise. It is far easier to design a good MM-level Phono Stage than a stellar MC-level Phono Stage, implementing the extra 30+dB gain required at a high level of quality does not come easily nor cheaply.
Based on this many Listeners may get better sonic results with a high output fixed coil cartridge (MM or MI) into a low-gain Phono Stage than a low-output, low-impedance cartridge (MC) into many MC high-gain Phono Stages. The lower the output voltage from the cartridge, the more capable the Phono Stage needs to be ( Price & Brain from the Designer ). To Design a world class Phono Stage (I write that, because every owner of anything thinks, his unit is worldclass) is not a trivial accomplishment. And Designers do something because they want to sell...not to make a religion out of it. Marketing will do that job much better...
So, back to beginning, better Phono Stages are able to extract more of the performance potential of the cartridge. Any cartridge. When you have ,bad luck‘, you can also hear what carts are good or not. Not everyone is mad to get that „kind of truth“..
I have a VPI Classic with a K&K phono stage and the Soundsmith Zephyr cart, along with a Synergistic Research Tricon Analog phono cable. This is an amazing combination! I don't have a pre-amp, but use a volume control on my phono stage direct to my amp. The K&K has XLR out, which is what I am using. The standard Maxxed-Out, which is what I have, should be a very substantial upgrade over your GCPH.

"The standard Maxxed-Out, which is what I have, should be a very substantial upgrade over your GCPH"

Amen to that!

Shakey