Trans Fi Salvation direct rim drive turntable


Hi A'goners, I've just bought this turntable, confident it'll be my last upgrade. The rest of my system is a Tom Evans Groove Plus SRX phono stage, EMM Labs CDSA SE cd player, Hovland HP200 pre/Radia power amps, Zu Definitions Mk 4 loudspeakers, so a pretty good way to listen to vinyl.

Over the years, since 1995 I've progressed from a Roksan Xerxes/Artemiz/Shiraz, via a Michell Orbe/SME V/Transfiguration Orpheus, finally ending up last week with my new Trans Fi Salvation/Trans Fi T3Pro Terminator/Zu modded Denon 103.

This turntable (£2500 UK price, approx $4000-$5000 US) is the brainchild of Vic, a retired dentist, who, fed up with the shortcomings of belt drive and traditionally-pivoted tone arms, literally from the ground up devised first the Terminator air bearing linear tracking tone arm (now in T3Pro guise as on my system), and now the direct rim drive Salvation turntable, a technology in direct opposition to the hegemony of belt drive we've come to accept from the '70s.

In summary, he has developed a motor that directly rim drives an oversize platter. The magic is that vibrations are drained away from the platter and hence stylus. So minimal rumble is transmitted, the weakness of Garrards/Lencos in the past. This is mated to a substantial slate plinth which does a great job of isolating the whole rig from external vibrations.

Where this differs from direct drive is that the torque applied is high enough to counteract stylus drag, but it is strictly analogue controlled ie no digital feedback applying constant micro speed control. Speed is set correctly, torque is sufficient, and speed stability is like a rock.

This is combined with his air bearing linear tracking arm, discussed on other threads.

So technical description over, how about how it sounds? Well, years ago I always assumed the overhang in bass when playing lps on my previous belt drive/pivoted arm tts, apparent as a benign artifact, was all part of the 'romance' of vinyl, esp. when compared to the dry, clinical sound of early cd. But in 2007 I acquired the EMM cd, which had a natural analogue sound playing silver discs, but none of this bass colouration. On studying the growing reemergence of idler/direct drive, and their superiority in maintaining speed stability, I agreed that the belt speed instability might be introducing this.

Two years ago I came across Vic, and now I can report that eliminating the belt for high torque rim drive has taken this whole artifact out of the equation. Whole layers of previously masked information like rhythm guitars are now present, treble information has abundant naturalness and decay, and bass, which appears to be less in quantity compared to belt, is actually more accurate with a real start-stop quality, much more like digital, and the real thing. The other positives are more linked to the arm, including uncanny tracking across the whole record side; I'm really not exaggerating in saying that the last few grooves at the end of an lp side are as solidly reproduced as the first. Music with strong dynamic contrasts are really served well by the Salvation, and I am shocked at how good this all is after trepidation that the sound might be hyperdetailed but too assertive etc. In fact music is reproduced with a relaxed incision, and a welcoming detailed transparency.

The amazing thing is that all of this is not in anyway at the expense of the natural warmth and tonal dimensionality that still puts vinyl way ahead of any digital (imho).

The only thing, and Vic would like this to be known, is that his creation is a cottage industry, and he can only produce limited numbers to order.

I'm happy to answer qs on it, as I really want our community to know about a possible world beating product at real world prices. My tech knowledge will be limited, but no problem discussing sound quality issues.

I'm not affiliated in anyway to the product, just sold my Orbe on ebay and bought this. Regards to all
spiritofmusic
Peter, I understand the tenor of your post. No, I haven't heard all these tts so shouldn't make such sweeping statements. I have heard the SME 20 and 30, TW Acustic AC3, Brinkmann Bardo and La Grange, Clearaudio Innovation, Grand Prix Monaco, and of course my tricked out Michell Orbe.
As you know there is little to no chance in the UK to hear the Continuum, Walker, Da Vinci etc.
Ok, I'll refrain from labelling the Salvation above these, but I have to say the top end belt drives I have heard could not beat the combination of positives presented by the Salvation, and the two DDS I heard got closer, but still no cigar.
Have you heard them yourself?
Are you in/ever visiting London? Fancy a visit?
No, I haven't heard the Continuum or Da Vinci or the Monaco, but that is exactly my point. I can't know that some other drive system is clearly better or worse in all cases as you suggest of your Direct Rim Drive over all belt and even DD types.

I have heard some horns and tubes and though I think they strayed a bit from reality for my taste, I don't feel I have nearly the experience to pass judgement on the entire class of product.

I think it has a lot to do with individual implementation and overall system context, not to mention the subjective notion of personal preference.

I don't get over to London, but thanks for the invitation.
It's a strange irony that my push away from belt drive is the direct result of finally getting digital that I really liked to listen to. My current EMM CDSA SE cd was such a step beyond my previous Orbe tt, that analogue for the first time wasn't my first choice of listening. However I was still acutely aware of digital's shortcomings in the areas of tonal density and transparency of soundstage.
Imagine my delight in feeling I'm getting the best of both worlds now with current tt.
Peter, it sounds like you've achieved the same with your SME 30/V-12.
Totally agree with you, that this is all system synergy dependent: my system is really starting to sing with the introduction of 4kVa balanced power isolation and SpatialComputer Black Hole bass node correction in my room.
Great to be able to get off this particular tt upgrade path.
We have been building rim drives for years now and have 120 plus customers
Cheers
Larry
Did consider Ttweights, but with no distributor in UK, was reluctant to go ahead w/out audition.
From what I've read comparing Salvation to Gem Ultra, the Salvation motor and execution is at least on a par, the integral air bearing linear tracking Terminator T3Pro arm makes the Trans Fi choice possible the biggest bargain in high end tts, at third price of Ttweights.
But I'm sure Larry's tt sounds great, the rim drive concept imho really does have major advantages over belt drive.