Trans Fi Salvation direct rim drive turntable


Hi A'goners, I've just bought this turntable, confident it'll be my last upgrade. The rest of my system is a Tom Evans Groove Plus SRX phono stage, EMM Labs CDSA SE cd player, Hovland HP200 pre/Radia power amps, Zu Definitions Mk 4 loudspeakers, so a pretty good way to listen to vinyl.

Over the years, since 1995 I've progressed from a Roksan Xerxes/Artemiz/Shiraz, via a Michell Orbe/SME V/Transfiguration Orpheus, finally ending up last week with my new Trans Fi Salvation/Trans Fi T3Pro Terminator/Zu modded Denon 103.

This turntable (£2500 UK price, approx $4000-$5000 US) is the brainchild of Vic, a retired dentist, who, fed up with the shortcomings of belt drive and traditionally-pivoted tone arms, literally from the ground up devised first the Terminator air bearing linear tracking tone arm (now in T3Pro guise as on my system), and now the direct rim drive Salvation turntable, a technology in direct opposition to the hegemony of belt drive we've come to accept from the '70s.

In summary, he has developed a motor that directly rim drives an oversize platter. The magic is that vibrations are drained away from the platter and hence stylus. So minimal rumble is transmitted, the weakness of Garrards/Lencos in the past. This is mated to a substantial slate plinth which does a great job of isolating the whole rig from external vibrations.

Where this differs from direct drive is that the torque applied is high enough to counteract stylus drag, but it is strictly analogue controlled ie no digital feedback applying constant micro speed control. Speed is set correctly, torque is sufficient, and speed stability is like a rock.

This is combined with his air bearing linear tracking arm, discussed on other threads.

So technical description over, how about how it sounds? Well, years ago I always assumed the overhang in bass when playing lps on my previous belt drive/pivoted arm tts, apparent as a benign artifact, was all part of the 'romance' of vinyl, esp. when compared to the dry, clinical sound of early cd. But in 2007 I acquired the EMM cd, which had a natural analogue sound playing silver discs, but none of this bass colouration. On studying the growing reemergence of idler/direct drive, and their superiority in maintaining speed stability, I agreed that the belt speed instability might be introducing this.

Two years ago I came across Vic, and now I can report that eliminating the belt for high torque rim drive has taken this whole artifact out of the equation. Whole layers of previously masked information like rhythm guitars are now present, treble information has abundant naturalness and decay, and bass, which appears to be less in quantity compared to belt, is actually more accurate with a real start-stop quality, much more like digital, and the real thing. The other positives are more linked to the arm, including uncanny tracking across the whole record side; I'm really not exaggerating in saying that the last few grooves at the end of an lp side are as solidly reproduced as the first. Music with strong dynamic contrasts are really served well by the Salvation, and I am shocked at how good this all is after trepidation that the sound might be hyperdetailed but too assertive etc. In fact music is reproduced with a relaxed incision, and a welcoming detailed transparency.

The amazing thing is that all of this is not in anyway at the expense of the natural warmth and tonal dimensionality that still puts vinyl way ahead of any digital (imho).

The only thing, and Vic would like this to be known, is that his creation is a cottage industry, and he can only produce limited numbers to order.

I'm happy to answer qs on it, as I really want our community to know about a possible world beating product at real world prices. My tech knowledge will be limited, but no problem discussing sound quality issues.

I'm not affiliated in anyway to the product, just sold my Orbe on ebay and bought this. Regards to all
spiritofmusic
Considering NVS/Telos for my ATLAS as my final destination for analogue front end. Has anyone compared rim drive to exotic DD drive like NVS exotics? For those of you who think that once you've maximize front end you've eliminated all colorations and midrange warmth from your system think again about the remaining variables that you can't hear due to noise.
Few of us here play at such lofty price points. I do own a highly tweaked Lenco L75 with a Dynavector tonearm and a Technics SP10 Mk3 in a slate and wood plinth of my own design, with a Reed 2A tonearm. The Lenco is divine, could easily live with it, but the Mk3 has the edge overall. If you categorize the Lenco as "rim drive", there is some remote relevance to your question. (Lenco idler drives the underside of the platter, not the rim.) The difference I hear is clearly in part due to the Reed vs the Dynavector, but there is a separate contribution from each of the respective turntables. None of the cartridges I am playing with at the moment is worth more than $1000, but most are "vintage" types.
Himiguel, You might want to contact Albert Porter. He has extensive experience with the NVS/Telos and owns an Atlas.

Could you elaborate on your point about unheard variables due to noise? Are you talking about the environmental noise, a component noise, some noise floor or noise related to DD turntables?
Would love to hear the NVS/Telos, but there are no opportunities outside the US, so a bit of a dead end for me. Still in awe of what my Salvation/Terminator can do at the very bottom end of the price scale (c10% the cost of the NVS/Telos), and other than cart considerations (will be investigating the Straingauge in the Spring), finally have a real feeling of ease listening to vinyl, and not being aware of the usual analogue artifacts (enhanced artificial warmth etc., wavering of suspended notes etc.). I've coined this "lack of cognitive dissonance", and finally I have it in my analogue front end.
No disrespect Himiguel, but you continually extol the virtues of grounding, saying no component/system can sound anywhere near it's best without addressing this aspect of noise elimination. You may be right, but I feel you should reveal you sell such solutions. I really feel these boards should be for enthusiasts with no affiliations to share their experiences. Dealers, fair enough, but reveal your bias.
I'm naturally skeptical of anyone not doing so, esp. when comments from you always seem to criticise other excellent engineering solutions to the same problems (eg your dismissal that my pro studio 8kVA balanced power transformer can be comparable to your products).
We all value the information, not the hard sell.