Trans Fi Salvation direct rim drive turntable


Hi A'goners, I've just bought this turntable, confident it'll be my last upgrade. The rest of my system is a Tom Evans Groove Plus SRX phono stage, EMM Labs CDSA SE cd player, Hovland HP200 pre/Radia power amps, Zu Definitions Mk 4 loudspeakers, so a pretty good way to listen to vinyl.

Over the years, since 1995 I've progressed from a Roksan Xerxes/Artemiz/Shiraz, via a Michell Orbe/SME V/Transfiguration Orpheus, finally ending up last week with my new Trans Fi Salvation/Trans Fi T3Pro Terminator/Zu modded Denon 103.

This turntable (£2500 UK price, approx $4000-$5000 US) is the brainchild of Vic, a retired dentist, who, fed up with the shortcomings of belt drive and traditionally-pivoted tone arms, literally from the ground up devised first the Terminator air bearing linear tracking tone arm (now in T3Pro guise as on my system), and now the direct rim drive Salvation turntable, a technology in direct opposition to the hegemony of belt drive we've come to accept from the '70s.

In summary, he has developed a motor that directly rim drives an oversize platter. The magic is that vibrations are drained away from the platter and hence stylus. So minimal rumble is transmitted, the weakness of Garrards/Lencos in the past. This is mated to a substantial slate plinth which does a great job of isolating the whole rig from external vibrations.

Where this differs from direct drive is that the torque applied is high enough to counteract stylus drag, but it is strictly analogue controlled ie no digital feedback applying constant micro speed control. Speed is set correctly, torque is sufficient, and speed stability is like a rock.

This is combined with his air bearing linear tracking arm, discussed on other threads.

So technical description over, how about how it sounds? Well, years ago I always assumed the overhang in bass when playing lps on my previous belt drive/pivoted arm tts, apparent as a benign artifact, was all part of the 'romance' of vinyl, esp. when compared to the dry, clinical sound of early cd. But in 2007 I acquired the EMM cd, which had a natural analogue sound playing silver discs, but none of this bass colouration. On studying the growing reemergence of idler/direct drive, and their superiority in maintaining speed stability, I agreed that the belt speed instability might be introducing this.

Two years ago I came across Vic, and now I can report that eliminating the belt for high torque rim drive has taken this whole artifact out of the equation. Whole layers of previously masked information like rhythm guitars are now present, treble information has abundant naturalness and decay, and bass, which appears to be less in quantity compared to belt, is actually more accurate with a real start-stop quality, much more like digital, and the real thing. The other positives are more linked to the arm, including uncanny tracking across the whole record side; I'm really not exaggerating in saying that the last few grooves at the end of an lp side are as solidly reproduced as the first. Music with strong dynamic contrasts are really served well by the Salvation, and I am shocked at how good this all is after trepidation that the sound might be hyperdetailed but too assertive etc. In fact music is reproduced with a relaxed incision, and a welcoming detailed transparency.

The amazing thing is that all of this is not in anyway at the expense of the natural warmth and tonal dimensionality that still puts vinyl way ahead of any digital (imho).

The only thing, and Vic would like this to be known, is that his creation is a cottage industry, and he can only produce limited numbers to order.

I'm happy to answer qs on it, as I really want our community to know about a possible world beating product at real world prices. My tech knowledge will be limited, but no problem discussing sound quality issues.

I'm not affiliated in anyway to the product, just sold my Orbe on ebay and bought this. Regards to all
spiritofmusic
Peter, I'm glad we've calmed the waters on this one. Tbh, I should not have declared so forcibly the Salvation/Terminator "supremacy", and esp. based on price.
I'm a pretty picky customer, and have turned down way more things I've heard than I've gone ahead with, so for me to so find analog peace with this rig more than anything gives me peace of mind that I'm done on this particular merry-go-'round.
As I've tried to reiterate, I would have had a whole load of enjoyment had I plumped for the SME 20/12, TW Acustic AC3/Graham or Grand Prix Monaco/Triplanar.
Re getting to listen to one, in the US I guess only if you come across an owner. Vic the designer builds strictly to order, and it was my good fortune that I only live 90 miles from him to enable my visit to his studio.
4orreal, point duly taken - no more price comparisons. Just that the Salvation/Terminator really is at the bottom end of pricing in the analog world, and the rig gives me things I haven't heard elswewhere. But point taken, I haven't listened side by side w/other uber rigs. Then again, it's pretty difficult to do any top level analog home comparisons anymore. Just got lucky to reach my measure of analog audio nirvana at a practical level.
Hiho - come back! I realise I may have been gushing like a lovesick girl. What would you like to know specifically, that may make you temper your skepticism of me and these products? I''ll kick off by saying that getting a fuctioning direct rim drive tt w/magnetic bearing, and air bearing linear tracking arm, at a real world level is a triumph. That it sounds accurate and transparent, but also toneful and textured is a great bonus. And the aesthetics and reliability for a non mass-produced product is a bonus.
Help me out, what are your qs/concerns?
I for one would not hold Spirit to the letter of his "15X" statement, just to its "spirit". This is coming from a cynic who does not believe there is much to be gained by spending any more than $30K on a turntable, and I would never spend even that much. Above approximate that price point, lets say up to $40,000, you are paying for bells, whistles, chrome plating, acrylic doodads, and beautiful hardwood.

Spiritofmusic, I am not skeptical of the product's quality or your enthusiasm. I'm glad that you found something you like. But those familiar with me knows that I am weary of pornographic sonic descriptions, hence I no longer read audio review in its entirety. I know I am a minority here as audio is not about purchasing decision; it's about educating myself about the hobby which is entertainment in itself. Once I get pass the positive tone, I just want to know why and how or what you hear correlates with the product's features. What component or feature is responsible for a certain quality in the sound. For example, the lack of metal to metal contact vertically may contribute to blacker background or the incorporation of a better motor contributes a smoother rotation and smoother texture in the sound, etc.... I don't mean it to be so technical but just something for me to bite on instead of the gushing of a fanboy. Even an educated guess would still be more inducive for discussion. There are hundreds of posts already so I might have missed something of that nature and if so, I apologize. I was one of the earliest lurkers on Trans-Fi's site before he made it into a commercial product, especially his pages of Lenco mods that were entertaining and informative to read. And I'm happy that he found success and "worshiper" like you to reward his hard work.

You know what, just don't mind this curmudgeon and carry on. You're doing just fine. :)

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