Trans Fi Salvation direct rim drive turntable


Hi A'goners, I've just bought this turntable, confident it'll be my last upgrade. The rest of my system is a Tom Evans Groove Plus SRX phono stage, EMM Labs CDSA SE cd player, Hovland HP200 pre/Radia power amps, Zu Definitions Mk 4 loudspeakers, so a pretty good way to listen to vinyl.

Over the years, since 1995 I've progressed from a Roksan Xerxes/Artemiz/Shiraz, via a Michell Orbe/SME V/Transfiguration Orpheus, finally ending up last week with my new Trans Fi Salvation/Trans Fi T3Pro Terminator/Zu modded Denon 103.

This turntable (£2500 UK price, approx $4000-$5000 US) is the brainchild of Vic, a retired dentist, who, fed up with the shortcomings of belt drive and traditionally-pivoted tone arms, literally from the ground up devised first the Terminator air bearing linear tracking tone arm (now in T3Pro guise as on my system), and now the direct rim drive Salvation turntable, a technology in direct opposition to the hegemony of belt drive we've come to accept from the '70s.

In summary, he has developed a motor that directly rim drives an oversize platter. The magic is that vibrations are drained away from the platter and hence stylus. So minimal rumble is transmitted, the weakness of Garrards/Lencos in the past. This is mated to a substantial slate plinth which does a great job of isolating the whole rig from external vibrations.

Where this differs from direct drive is that the torque applied is high enough to counteract stylus drag, but it is strictly analogue controlled ie no digital feedback applying constant micro speed control. Speed is set correctly, torque is sufficient, and speed stability is like a rock.

This is combined with his air bearing linear tracking arm, discussed on other threads.

So technical description over, how about how it sounds? Well, years ago I always assumed the overhang in bass when playing lps on my previous belt drive/pivoted arm tts, apparent as a benign artifact, was all part of the 'romance' of vinyl, esp. when compared to the dry, clinical sound of early cd. But in 2007 I acquired the EMM cd, which had a natural analogue sound playing silver discs, but none of this bass colouration. On studying the growing reemergence of idler/direct drive, and their superiority in maintaining speed stability, I agreed that the belt speed instability might be introducing this.

Two years ago I came across Vic, and now I can report that eliminating the belt for high torque rim drive has taken this whole artifact out of the equation. Whole layers of previously masked information like rhythm guitars are now present, treble information has abundant naturalness and decay, and bass, which appears to be less in quantity compared to belt, is actually more accurate with a real start-stop quality, much more like digital, and the real thing. The other positives are more linked to the arm, including uncanny tracking across the whole record side; I'm really not exaggerating in saying that the last few grooves at the end of an lp side are as solidly reproduced as the first. Music with strong dynamic contrasts are really served well by the Salvation, and I am shocked at how good this all is after trepidation that the sound might be hyperdetailed but too assertive etc. In fact music is reproduced with a relaxed incision, and a welcoming detailed transparency.

The amazing thing is that all of this is not in anyway at the expense of the natural warmth and tonal dimensionality that still puts vinyl way ahead of any digital (imho).

The only thing, and Vic would like this to be known, is that his creation is a cottage industry, and he can only produce limited numbers to order.

I'm happy to answer qs on it, as I really want our community to know about a possible world beating product at real world prices. My tech knowledge will be limited, but no problem discussing sound quality issues.

I'm not affiliated in anyway to the product, just sold my Orbe on ebay and bought this. Regards to all
spiritofmusic
I just went to the website where there is a crystal clear drawing showing how the maglev works. There are also photos to show step by step how to convert an older Salvation to maglev. Without question, the maglev works "only" in the vertical plane. The horizontal plane is maintained by a long heavy duty inverted sleeve bearing, which is oiled, not too different from the Verdier, if memory serves. I gotta say I am becoming more and more impressed myself with this tt, mainly due to the quality of construction and engineering at the given price point. I was already an admirer from afar of the Terminator tonearm. In theory, I do not care for rim drive, but again Vic looks to have dealt with most of the major issues. We should all buy one. Very cool.
I had a look at the trans Fi web site.
This is a very nice TT and exceptional value for the modest cost . Knowing a little about machining expenses, I would say that it is an amazing achievement. Very much like the raw design. No unnecessary bling like many contemporary TTs

Further to the mag bearing. In the assembly instructions it says

" Confirm platter is levitated by pushing down & watching spring back"

This would appear to confirm my earlier comments about vertical compliance. Is this a problem? The reviews of the mag bearing would suggest not.
Perhaps this is a naive question, but do the magnets that levitate the platter effect the cartridge in any way? Maybe the platter is shielded, but I've seen a cartridge with strong magnets smash into the spindle of an SP 10 due to the magnetic attraction. The result was a bent cantilever. I would think that if any magnetic attraction got through the platter, it would effect how the signal is generated in the cartridge.
Peter, the magnets are situated at the base of the 2 to 3-inch vertical shaft upon which the platter rides, and they are in the form of a collar around the vertical shaft that looks to be less than an inch in distance from inner to outer boundary of the collar (like a large fender washer). I suggest you look at the excellent photos on the website. Anyway, the magnetic forces are in play way below the surface platter (at least 3 inches, at a guess) and only in the immediate vicinity of the spindle, i.e., under the LP label but not extending out under the playing surface.
quote] I've played around with the Verdier tt, the grand-daddy of tt's with fully magnetic vertical suspensions.[/quote]

Hi Lewm, not sure if there are different versions of the Verdier, but the latest ones do include a ball bearing, so not really true magnetic suspension!

If I understand correctly, the Verdier can be used without the ball bearing, but it seems Mr Verdier has chosen to include it in the latest version.