Wave Kinetics NVS Turntable - Stereophile Review


For all owners, there is a good review in this month's stereophile - table reviewed with the Telos arm and with a Kuzma 4Point. Framer gives the nod to his Caliburn but a close call.
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Welcome back Thuchan,
I have missed you......and I really miss seeing your wonderful collection of vintage and modern audio equipment on your Systems Page.
Any chance of it returning?
Do you have any new great discoveries?

Regards
I agree with Halcro's basic sentiments, BUT what I would like to see Fremer do is to use a garden variety but generally well recognized tt as a "control" in his listening experiments. Then perhaps the vast majority of us who cannot and never will hear any of the 3 megabuck tt's in his own system can really appreciate what might be gained by doing so. Or, if he is capable of truly objective opinions, we would find out that one or another of the most expensive turntables in the world is really not up to snuff. I suspect there is a pretender or two among them, but we will never know about it, because S'phile and the audio press in general "protects" them.

I once exchanged a few direct emails with Fremer. He is really a nice guy, but he could not see that his owning the Caliburn must make him at least subconsciously biased in its favor. Or, to take the Raul line of argument, he has found in the Caliburn at device that colors the sound in a way that he prefers. Thus the Caliburn will win all shoot-outs in his system. This is perfectly all right on a personal level but does not benefit those who hang on his every word.
Halcro, No one is infallible. Even Fremer. Do you accept as gospel everything he prints?

I enjoy his writing and do appreciate his contribution to analog and audio. His reviews are better than most and I like the fact that he compares gear with his reference gear. He is not afraid to write what he thinks either. This does not mean I have to agree with everything he writes.

I did not see where anyone disagreed with his conclusions regarding the comparison between those three tables. Not that it matters but I have heard the NVS several times and the Onedof once. It is impossible to make any real comparisons as they were not in the same system. I would like to hear the Continuum.

I find it counter productive to put too much stock in one mans opinion. I have been burned before as most of you have I'm sure. Everybody has different tastes and preferences.
Dear Lewm: +++++ " Thus the Caliburn will win all shoot-outs in his system. " +++++

well you put in the right short words and tha's exactly what I want to express through my posts.

The problems he detected with the Onedof and NVS are problems with both TTs but he can't imagine/figure in any way that the real " problems " maybe came from the Caliburn that's not so " perfect " as he thinks.

I'm in agreegment with you and with Halcro regarding that almost no one could have the opportunity to have those three TTs in the same system to make an evalutaion but to agree on this fact does not means I have to believe on the " perfect " MF.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
In the other side it is " weird " that every time that appears a thread about NVS TT ( like the one that was deleted. ) the same persons post almost the same trying to diminish the NVS TT. This thread is no exception and obviously as some of us already know exist a specific " agenda " from this group.
Yes I'm refering to the German group.

Some Agoners already suffered first hand the direct actions coming from a member of that group where between other things are especialist to clone today audio products speaking as his own design: the same cloning speakers that electronics too.
After some time we now see them again in Agon, now that " the water return to calm " and that maybe they think: " every thing was forgotten ".

Take care all of you.

R.