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Micro Seiki, or TW AC-1

I'm trying to decide between Micro Seiki RX 5000 and TW AC-1.
They are approx. the same price used (about $10K)
Both are belt drive.
Unfortunately, I don't have a first hand experience with either of the tables.
You can see my current set-up in my system page.
The reason, I want to make a change from DD TT to belt drive is just to try a different approach.
Also, I have a feeling, that the bass would be one of the areas, where MS and TW might have an edge over my current DD Technics SP-10 MkII
My endeavor into analog is fairly new, so I'm not sure what my final choice in analog would be, unless I try it in my own system.
What I'm really interested in is the following:
Sonic differences b/w MS, TW and Technics SP-10 MkII
Reliability
Service availability.
maril555
philb7777
401 posts
 
Pcosta,

Great points about the TW North American importer. I think it can't be better described than by this link:

http://www.stereophile.com/content/high-water-sounds-and-ithe-architecture-lossi

I love the last quote by Jeff:

While the music washed over the still room, Catalano opened his eyes and motioned toward the system: “Who gives a shit about all this stuff,” he said, holding the LP sleeve in the air, “if you can’t have this?”

Well said, Jeff. Well said. They don't get more genuine than him.
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rauliruegas
13,101 posts
 
Dear Jaspert: As any one I made audio mistakes too but as only a few of us I'm willing to learn each single day and I did it with those " stupid MS kilograms ": did you? not yet?

Dear Thuchan, I don't want to use more work with " stupid kilograms " where exist other better " land to cultivate ". You already know that I don't like the same distortions that you like it. As me you need to learn and for that you need " to want " to learn.

Btw, fortunately I have not a Mexican group as your german group.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
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syntax
2,193 posts
 
“Who gives a shit about all this stuff,” he said, holding the LP sleeve in the air, “if you can’t have this?”

Thank you for sharing, I was whining after reading ...
May I suggest, lots of Audiophiles I know, down a bottle of Redwine while listening to their records, it is much cheaper than any Update and PRaT is included.
thuchan
1,009 posts
 
Pcosta,
I never made any negative remarks about the TW designs. I know Thomas Woschnik from the very first beginning he started with his first tables in Germany and I also followed the successful landing in the US market by the activity of Joe Catalano. I think it is a great job they have done. They built up a remarkable business building upon some of the features of MS. What I don't get is the condemning of the technology of the big Micro Seikis by some of the followers. Some even never heard a big MS table and e.g. what Raul describes about his understanding of the "poor technology" of the MS tables makes me wonder if the Mexican Group really owns a good sample.
peterayer
1,382 posts
 
What does a "good sample" mean? If there really is a "Mexican Group", who besides Raul is in it? This thread is leading to more questions than answers.

I think the Maril555 should try to audition the two tables in his system, learn for himself what the differences are and then report the results back in this thread. Then we might get somewhere.
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