Micro Seiki, or TW AC-1


I'm trying to decide between Micro Seiki RX 5000 and TW AC-1.
They are approx. the same price used (about $10K)
Both are belt drive.
Unfortunately, I don't have a first hand experience with either of the tables.
You can see my current set-up in my system page.
The reason, I want to make a change from DD TT to belt drive is just to try a different approach.
Also, I have a feeling, that the bass would be one of the areas, where MS and TW might have an edge over my current DD Technics SP-10 MkII
My endeavor into analog is fairly new, so I'm not sure what my final choice in analog would be, unless I try it in my own system.
What I'm really interested in is the following:
Sonic differences b/w MS, TW and Technics SP-10 MkII
Reliability
Service availability.
maril555
What does a "good sample" mean? If there really is a "Mexican Group", who besides Raul is in it? This thread is leading to more questions than answers.

I think the Maril555 should try to audition the two tables in his system, learn for himself what the differences are and then report the results back in this thread. Then we might get somewhere.
Dear Peterayer: There is no Mexican group, things are that " the lion thinks that every one is like it ".

Problem with some persons like Thuchan is that read the posts but does not really read it and then can't understand it.

In the other side I think is not easy for Maril555 and for almost any one of us to have the opportunity to test both TTs in his system.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Peterayer,
I'll definetely try to listen to TW AC-1 in more controlled environement, maybe not in my own system. The logistics are going to be too complicated. I can't say the same about MS though, I don't know anybody in my area, who has one.
Any hints? I'm in Philadelphia.
I wanted to note, that one thing, i learned from this thread is that pretty much everyone here, including proponents of MS, agree on the "ringing platter" issue with stock MS.
It also seems, that to bring MS to it's max potential would require fairly extensive modifications- new platter, support system, etc. I'm not sure about the cost and availability of those.
You are right though about trying it in my own system.
I'm exposed to a fairly wide variety of systems through our Audio group, some of them include very well regarded TTs, such as Walker Black Diamond, Basis, Monaco, etc. But I wouldn't dare to even try passing judgements on the TTs in questions in the context of the unfamiliar system.
To me, it's seems impossible to tease out a contribution of one single component under those conditions.
It also seems, that to bring MS to it's max potential would require fairly extensive modifications- new platter, support system, etc. I'm not sure about the cost and availability of those.
Maril555,

If you ever wind up somewhere near Tulsa, Ok, I can arrange both the RX-5000 and AC-1 in the same system for audition. It's a long way from Philly though. Just don't know where your travels take you.

You are correct. As dealer networks and audio shops continue to shrink, the day and age of the dealer/distributor/importer of certain lines make things exclusive to one source for purchase new or audition. Makes it difficult.