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Are there other Artisan Fidelity TT owners aorund?

So after being an audio hobbyist since my uncle got me going down this demented path some 17 years ago I finally purchased a TT. I had flirted with the idea for a very long time but honestly I've heard a number of TT's at shows and at buddies homes and none of them moved me. Now obviously many many variables are involved. Lets start with, was their TT setup correctly (superlatively).., I don't know. Was the arm/cartridge combination simpatico.., again, I don't know. Was the phono preamp just so-so or great and if it was great was the cartridge loaded correctly.., you get my drift.

So with my digital down through the years easily besting (to my ears) the analog I'd been privy to, I found no reason to spend the money required to involve myself with analog. My former Bidat easily dispatched a SOTA Cosmos Vacuum TT in a head to head listening session. Ditto for my former Dynavox Dynastation.., same with my AMR DP777...etc.

At Axpona last year I listened to the $170K Clearaudio TT along with about $85K worth of Pass Amplification and perhaps $200K worth of JM Labs speaker and cabling only to be more moved by the sound from the Playback Design MPD-5 in the same room.

Finally I realized the only way I would ever find out for myself would be to purchase my OWN TT and make sure it was expertly setup and dialed-in. I had a rare chance to purchase a latest-revision-pristine example of a Graaf GM70 Phono Preamplifier. I have a soft spot for Graaf as Mr. Mariani simply builds the finest gear I have laid ears on. So now I have this phono pre sitting in the box for a few months when I see a SP 10 MK III come up for sale in Agon. So, I threw caution to the wind and contacted Chris at Artisan Fidelity; after some conversation I hung up having just commissioned the building of a SP10 MKIII Next Gen TT.

I was happy for about a month then the fear started to creep in, "what have I done?". What if this thing SUCKS!!!! and my digital system which is very very very good if I do say so myself stomps it!

During the build I researched and read tons of user reviews (I don't really pay attention to so-called pro reviewers) on arms and cartridges. I finally settled (with a lot of talking to Chris and other friends and a lot of late night web searching) on the Kuzma 4 Point and the Ortofon MC Anna.

So, here we are today and I have had my TT for a little over 3 weeks now and I have about 150 - 160 hours on the rig. Early on it sounded ok, you know.., good but nothing special. I liked it but my digital was fully up to the task and in some cases much better :) (now I'm scared)

Ok, so fast forward to 100 hours.., ok, I think I'm starting to understand all this analog hype :) better and better. now we are at 150 hours.., the word SUBLIME comes to mind. The spaciousness, openness and natural continuity of the analog is addictive. The dynamics seem to go on forever along with a naturalness that is very difficult to put into words. I did purchase the Furutech Demag, the Destat II, a scale..., all the toys to go along with it :) Again, I wanted to know for myself and the only way to do that was to take the plunge.

So how does my digital hold up? Well, my well run-in long time AMR DP777 has NOTHING to be ashamed of. It sounds great and I can easily go from the TT to the DP without too much shock (the AMR guys are big vinyl heads and use vinyl as a reference when designing) BUT... when I have two equally well recorded pieces of music (Best of Eva Cassidy comes to mind or Diana Krall Live in Paris 24/96 vs 180g/45) as good as my digital sounds the SP10MK III simply walks away. Again the digital is not trodden underfoot and indeed 20 seconds of the digital and you will be into it fully, but the analog rig beguiles with its effervescent ease and infinite continuity of musical flow.

Ok, so to end this long synopses.., I am now deeply into analog and have been going to local used record stores and burning up my cc on Music Direct and Acoustic Sounds...etc.

The folks at Artisan Fidelity are the real deal and they built me a museum quality +180 pound Porsche Basalt Black TT/piece of art that sounds AMAZING!!!!

I also ordered a Bassocontinuo Apogeo rack for the table which should arrive in about 2 weeks. I am enjoying my foray into the land of analog!!!

THANKS CHRIS!!!!!!!
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richardkrebs
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Sjy425
Perhaps I can help with the Ultra 5 question.
I have been using these as a reference for awhile now. I has access to a machine shop, so have been trying to make something that approaches their performance. As you say they are pretty expensive and my goal is to build a foot that I could use throughout my system that was "good enough" but at a lower cost.
So far the Ultra 5s reign supreme... from the upper bass up to the lower treble. In that range they are wonderful with great body and delineation. My efforts have not however been totally in vain.
Deep bass is, slightly, attenuated and ill defined. The same goes for the upper treble. There is also, slight, clogging when the orchestra really gets going. This results in a subtle attenuation of dynamics. These are minor criticisms though. The weighting that is put on these areas would depend on the current voicing of your system and of course your preferences.
Overall I find them to be excellent.
audiofun OP
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Sjy425, thanks for the information on the mono cartridges. I know you can't compare the mono Miyajima and Yamamoto head-to-head but if you had to select (by memory) one to live with.., which would it be?

Richardkrebs; thanks for the elucidation concerning the merits of the Ultra 5's.
dover
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Sjy425/Audiofun

Richardkrebs criticism of the Ultra 5 may be a result of changes he has made to his Technics and Eminent Technology ET2 tonearm, both of which have substantial changes from standard and bear little resemblance to the original designs.

Richardkrebs SP10 turntable is radically different from the Artisan Fidelity, it uses a basic acrylic and lead sandwhich for the plinth.

With regard to the Eminent Technology ET2 tonearm, Richardkrebs has removed the patented decoupled counterweight mechanism and added lead mass to the arm.
The patented split counterweight mechanism is designed specifically to split the bass resonance and reduce distortion by lowering the mass the cartridge sees above FR. One of Bruce Thigpens specific design goals, based on sound mathematical principles and physics, and thorough testing, were intended to keep the horizontal mass as low as possible. Richardkrebs modifications to the ET2 increase distortion as demonstrated on Bruce Thigpens website with properly documented testing.

For further information here is a link to the issues involved.
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1325551242&openflup&1035&4#1035
Richardkrebs issues with the Ultra 5 may indeed be artfiacts of his particular set up and I would encourage readers to try components in their own system where possible.
richardkrebs
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In deference to the hard working manufacturers who labour to bring to this boutique market, interesting and innovative products, I would not presume to voice an opinion unless I was sure and up to date with my findings.

The signature sound of the stillpoints is, to me, consistent across a range of components in multiple systems I have personally auditioned.
audiofun OP
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Finally TWO weeks later my Naim "Meet Me in London" album has arrived. To say I am disapointed would be an understatement. The album has too much surface noise but the bigger problem is the recording itself, for instance my 24/192 version of "Take 5" is CLEARLY superior to the album. This album appears to have been mistakenly mastered in mono!!!

The recording is closed in compared to the 24/192 version and my mono setting on the AMR PH77 does absolutely nothing to the presentation of the music.

Now I have to fire off an email to Naim and find out what is happening. I've gone to the Naim forum and others are under the same impression as me.., that this may be a flawed pressing... Very disapointed.
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