Why do digital cables sound different?

Sean - Transmission-line effects are the main concern with digital cables. Characteristic impedance matching is a big part of this. However, dispersion of the digital signal is also caused by dielectric absorption, which can cause jitter, so just matching to 75 ohms is not sufficient to minimize jitter.

"Shouldn't a cable that has a higher velocity factor be less prone to signal deterioration / absorption due to the signal spending less time in the cable ?"

There will generally be less absorption in a high-velocity cable because in order to get high-velocity, you need a low dielectric constant. Low dielectric constant results in lower capacitance and lower dielectric absorption. The time that the signal transits the cable (propagation time) is really of little consequence itself. This will obviously change depending on the length of the cable. The rise-time of a SP/DIF signal is on the order of 20 nsec, so you would have to have 100 feet to equal the risetime. Technically, this makes impedance a non-issue for a 6-foot SP/DIF cable. However, in practice, impedance discontinuities do impact the sound, particularly the image focus and detail, by adding to the jitter.

As for dielectrics, PVC is at the bottom, getting progressively better with foamed poly, solid Teflon, foamed Teflon, expanded Teflon and finally air. I use Expanded Teflon in my Digital cable. It is hard to put a percentage on the improvement without measuring it. I have plans to purchase a Tek CSA803 communications analyzer, which will measure jitter accurately to a few picoseconds, so I will eventually be able to measure this.

I would have to agree with the impedance argument, if a digital connection says 75ohm you need a 75ohm capable cable that is purpose designed to sound good doing what you want to use it for. I would suggest looking at Canare's RCAP true 75ohm RCA connectors $3-$5 each and some of the canare LV-77S cable I think it is $2 a foot or so. That combination will outperform $60-$100 digital interconnects. Canare takes cables very very seriously and they are highly regarded by the profesional audio world.

Ooop's, I was commenting on speaker cables and interconnects and missed the word digital.

Frogman's insistance on believing that Kimber's digital cables exhibit the same sort of characteristics as their analog ones may be true, or it may just be that he associates those characteristics with the Kimber brand, and his brain tells him what to expect.

We can't overlook the affect of our preconceptions on what we hear. I would bet that many of the "golden eared" of the world would be shocked to learn their conclusions in true double-blind tests. (especially if not told WHAT they're testing!)

As a reviewer in one of the high-end mags wrote (about 20 years ago) "The amplifier delivers 300 WPC into an 8 ohm load and is housed in rich persimmon wood." He then went on to describe the amplifier's sound as "warm" and added, tongue in cheek, "which is typical for amplifiers housed in rich persimmon wood..."

Or, as I responded to my friend recently who asked, "Can you really hear the difference between a stock power cable and one costing $2000?" I replied, "If you just spent $2000 on a power cable, you'll hear a difference."

No hate mail please - I have upgraded power cables, interconnects, etc. My point is simply that our brains can convince us that we hear almost anything. Heck, that's why our systems sound good at all - because our brain fills in what's missing. Therefore, be sure YOU hear it - don't take someone else's word for it.

John: I don't think that you'll find anyone here that would deny that brands / prices / cosmetics may have more influence over what we hear than many of us would like to admit. I try to forget about all of this stuff and just listen. Obviousy, i try to start off with products that are at least well designed to begin with, but one sometimes does not even have that much info to work with when auditioning specific items. Sean
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