What speakers for 10k?

Room size is 16 by 19 and will be used for 80% music and 20% ht. at that kind of money I'm looking for new. and to answer zd542s question the end of game speakers means never feeling the need to buy another pair of speakers again.

You will feel the need...

Yeah maybe? but I did the same with my amp and pre amp and don't feel the need to upgrade on those, since my ears are use to the sound of Vienna's I've thought about upgrading to the Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Grand's.

I would suggest Sonus Faber and Dynaudio and maybe PMC in keeping with a sound similar to the VA's. Which model? Well you really have to listen to the different ones. It's your ears and wallet. BTW my brother in law has your speakers and they are very nice but a little too laid back for me.

Remember with pre-owned you should be able to find them at approx a 40 - 50% discount. Discounts of more would be Magico or Raidho but over your top budget IMO.

I would again suggest going to dealers and listening for yourself. Even better would be to bring your electronics with you. Best would be an in home demo.

Good luck whatever you should decide.

Hi JugHead, the Vienna Beethoven Grands are fine VA speakers... But if you can find a pair of used Vienna Mahlers, they are far superior, and well within your budget. They are simply divine! My review of the Mahlers V1.5 was originally published on TAS 188, and should still be available on AV Guide. Let me know if you can't find it, and I will send you a cached copy.

Guido