What speakers for 10k?

JugHead, I have heard Beethoven Grand and Mahler in the same system, being driven by a Rowland 500W M312 stereo at RMAF several years ago.... I did fall instantly in love with the Mahlers and eventually bought a pair... There was a night and day difference with Beethoven Grands... I found the latter to be fine speakers, but sounded "matter of fact" and far from the enchanting Mahlers.

Since then, Beethoven Grands have been significantly updated... You might want to ask the seller when the pair in consideration was manufactured.

G.

The Beethoven's are the latest design, I'll see what I can find for used Mahler's and look into them more.

Hi Jughead, the Beethovens you are considering are not likely to be the latest design. The latest Beethovens will be featured for the very first time at CES 2015 in Vegas. Here is a line item from a professional reviewers newsletter I just received this morning from VANA Ltd, Vienna Acoustic importer in North America:

...

System Two: [Venetian Towers] Suite 30-130
Vienna Acoustics – Beethoven Concert Grand Symphony Edition, $8,500.00/pr (World premier)

...

For more info, you may want to give a buzz to VANA Ltd:

http;://www.vanaltd.com
Phone: (425) 610-4532
(425) 610-4532

Regards, Guido

The Beethoven's are 5 years old, I don't think they are the se version, they do have the spider cone drivers. I'm liking what I'm reading about the Mahler's but not finding any used? these are 15k new I believe?

Jughead, Mahlers are out of production, hence you will not find a new pair. With a little bit of patience you will eventually find a set on Audiogon or other source.

The current Vienna speaker in the same price range as Mahler is the Listz, also to be featured at CES:

System One: [Venetian Towers] Suite 30-129
Vienna Acoustics – Imperial Series – Liszt, $15,000.00/pr

They use technology trickled down from the current VA flagship, called DIe Muzik. Here is the Lizt Imperial page:

http://www.vanaltd.com/imperial-series.html

and

http://www.vanaltd.com/assets/liszt-data-sheet.pdf

And here is my mostly technical discussion of my own pair of DIe Muzik:

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue59/vienna.htm


Regards, G.