The standoff between Pabelson and Tbg reminds me of the stalemate between the external-world skeptic and the dogmatist.
Skeptic: You don't know that you're not a brain in a vat of nutrients, being stimulated by a computer simulation, carefully monitored by a team of scientists, to think you're in a real, concrete world... the world you *think* you're in. Since you don't know you're not a brain-in-a-vat, you don't know anything mundane about the external world, e.g., that you have two hands.
Dogmatist: I know I have two hands! If I know I have two hands, then I know I am not a handless brain-in-a-vat. Therefore, I know I am not a handless brain-in-a-vat.
One man's modus ponens is another man's modus tollens, as the saying goes.
(For non-logicians, modus ponens is: If P then Q. P. Therefore Q. Modus tollens is If P then Q. Not-Q. Therefore, not-P.)
Pabelson: DBT shows no audible difference between cables, therefore there is no audible difference.
Tbg: There is an audible difference between cables, therefore, DBT is flawed.
Logic alone (formal logic) cannot settle the dispute, any more than logic can settle the skeptic/dogmatist dispute.
But in this case, it's odd to think of Tbg's favored cables being a/b'ed with cheapos, without his being able to tell the difference, and then, only when told the true identity of the cables, his insistence that there *is* a perceivable difference. Very odd.
Here's a question for the doubters of DBT-ing. Given that there are perceptual biases at work (expectation, confirmation, endowment effect, etc.) how would one test for such biases? That is, what *would* count as two components sounding the same?
Suppose you have two amps that are identical except one of them has a beetle put inside and the beetle runs around, I don't know, defecating in there. And then reviewers praise the beetle effect: "Widened the soundstage by meters! You don't need golden ears to hear this one!" How would you go about evaluating the beetle effect?
Skeptic: You don't know that you're not a brain in a vat of nutrients, being stimulated by a computer simulation, carefully monitored by a team of scientists, to think you're in a real, concrete world... the world you *think* you're in. Since you don't know you're not a brain-in-a-vat, you don't know anything mundane about the external world, e.g., that you have two hands.
Dogmatist: I know I have two hands! If I know I have two hands, then I know I am not a handless brain-in-a-vat. Therefore, I know I am not a handless brain-in-a-vat.
One man's modus ponens is another man's modus tollens, as the saying goes.
(For non-logicians, modus ponens is: If P then Q. P. Therefore Q. Modus tollens is If P then Q. Not-Q. Therefore, not-P.)
Pabelson: DBT shows no audible difference between cables, therefore there is no audible difference.
Tbg: There is an audible difference between cables, therefore, DBT is flawed.
Logic alone (formal logic) cannot settle the dispute, any more than logic can settle the skeptic/dogmatist dispute.
But in this case, it's odd to think of Tbg's favored cables being a/b'ed with cheapos, without his being able to tell the difference, and then, only when told the true identity of the cables, his insistence that there *is* a perceivable difference. Very odd.
Here's a question for the doubters of DBT-ing. Given that there are perceptual biases at work (expectation, confirmation, endowment effect, etc.) how would one test for such biases? That is, what *would* count as two components sounding the same?
Suppose you have two amps that are identical except one of them has a beetle put inside and the beetle runs around, I don't know, defecating in there. And then reviewers praise the beetle effect: "Widened the soundstage by meters! You don't need golden ears to hear this one!" How would you go about evaluating the beetle effect?