Anyone been in contact with Jade Audio recently?

JD answered my mail concerning the Vermeil Digital. So the man is still alive and kicking ! ;-)

BTW. I have VD Masters on trial and they advised 400-800 hours of burning in. Ofcourse this isn't possible within the 45 days trial. But I hope they will be flexible...

Wow... I left this thread for dead, only to come back a few weeks later and find it alive and kicking!

To answer Bobf's question the GG Revelations I tried ended up with about 200 hours on them. Apparently that isn't enough time, because according to Steve Brunelle they need 300 hours to completely settle. While that may be true, I have a hard time believing that cables can undergo wholesale changes in character between 200 and 300 hours! In my (perhaps limited) experience, I've had pretty good idea what a cable is gonna sound like after a few days... After that, the rest of the break in tends to manifest as refinement in sound, like a smoothing out of the midrange or a sweetening of the treble.

My experience with GG Revelations was that they sounded very "dense", compared to the Jade Vermeils, both in terms of the soundstage as well as temporally. I felt like sounds that were previously spread out nicely between the speakers all fell towards the center of the soundstage. I particularly noticed this with the bass. Also, like Jafox has described, I lost a certain amount of shimmer and the sense that sounds decay into a black background. But main reason I removed the Revelations before 300 hours was that for some reason they accentuated some treble hash that I had never experienced before in my system. Now that may have gone away with more break in time, but I couldn't stand the thought of having to listen to my system like that for another week! So I put the Vermeils back in for some respite, and I never felt like giving the Revelations another try. Perhaps I like the treble through my Vermeils more because they have Bybee filters in them?

That being said, just because the Revelations didn't work out for me, they have so much positive feedback and Steve Brunelle is such a great guy to do business with, I have no reservations in recommending that people give the Gabriel Golds a shot in their systems. I would just keep an open mind and try other interconnects as well!

As an aside, I don't understand why all these manufacturers who claim these exceedingly long break in requirements don't break in the cables themselves with a cable cooker before shipping! I know that the dielectric still needs to settle after the cables are moved around, but requiring a customer to put 2 straight weeks on a cable before listening critically is a bit much.

On a separate note: Mattheus, I have the Vermeil Digital cable with Furutech Rhodium plugs, and I'm very pleased with it! It replaced a Stereovox XV2, and I had no qualms selling the XV2 as soon as I placed the Vermeil Digital in my system. The Vermeil retained all the detail of the XV2, but the treble was smoothed out considerably. I didn't really do an A/B test between them because I just preferred the Vermeil! If you end up getting one, I'd be interested to hear what you think about it.

And another note: A fellow Audiogoner graciously let me borrow a pair of Jade Audio Pure Gold interconnects for comparison with my Vermeil + Bybees. And I just won an auction for a pair of KCI Silkworms... Once the Silkworms arrive, I'll post a comparison between these three interconnects!

Tomer

No disdain at all coming from me! :-) Honestly, I don't understand why people get so worked up over whether everyone else likes the same interconnects as they do. This is supposed to be fun, guys! I've learned a lot about this hobby and discovered some cool cables/gear through reading these forums. Everyone has differences in tastes and experiences, and we all gain by sharing these with each other. (I feel like a preschool teacher right now! lol)

As for the treble hash I was hearing, I know that wasn't caused by the GG Revelations. My system is far from perfect at the moment, and getting it there feels like a never ending process! I have been trying to build an all digital system, but recently, I've felt like I've been gaining resolution at the expense of musicality. That's why I've been looking at gold interconnects. For some reason the Revelations simply made a bad system attribute more clear than I was hearing before. Actually, I've been thinking of adding some tubes to the mix, but that's probably fodder for another thread!

Tomer

I'll stay out of this thread in the future as there is certainly some disdain here for some reason
Bobf

Now you know why I no longer visit the GG threads Bob....

No disdain as long as you can play nice. I think the main thing is that folks understand that system synergy and tastes are different. No problem at all if you like GG cables, but after so many told me that GG cables need more burn in on the GG thread, we don't really need to hear it all again here on a Jade thread. If I feel like being told how wrong I was for not liking GG cables, I'd just go back to the GG threads. :)

I mean really....that "you need to let them burn in another 300 hours" excuse is really old. I understand that Jade cables are not for everyone, why don't others seem to understand this?
If you don't like Jade, fine, I don't care. I won't tell you that you need to listen to them for another month to "get them".
From my experiences GG and VD fans are the most fanatical cable fans out there. Passion can be a good thing, but c'mon, let's not become stalkers, lurking in any thread that might say something not glowing about our favorite cable. Sheesh....

Cheers,
John