Speaker cables from Asia

Where are the original cables from? Not trying to be a smart ass here, but if they are actually made in China, then the knock-off and the genuine item might be from the same factory.

I don't know about the others, but Kimber cables (8TC, 12TC etc) are made in USA.

I m puzzle with the response to this thread from some posters. Is it right to assume so long a product is from China or chinese in origin its a fraud? Do these posters ever dealt with any chinaman from asia before they post remarks like if its from china assume its a knockoff ?
I suppose when we purchase anything on line we have nothing but common sense to guide us to hopefully make a right decision. Off course I will never buy anything that is way below market price.
The world is not better off economically because of some non-asian who created beautiful non tangible and fraudulent products and fed it to the world.
There ur fraud are every where regardless of race, religion, country of origin or sex. Type casting asian is certainly not right.
By the way I m a chinaman from asia, who purchased online stuff from HK, Singapore, Indonesia and mainly USA and UK

Not sure if you're talking about me.... Anyway, me too have bought stuff online from other Asian countries like Japan, Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand without any issue. But Hong Kong... I'll just steer clear of it.

Tpreaves mentioned about suspicious Kimber 12TC... If you check eBay # 320416615598, you'll notice the printing on the sleeves are different from the original. The same applies to ebay # 220466314087 and # 220466314057 where the banana plugs (which they like to copy as well) look different too, and the printing on the sleeves looks dirt cheap. They've even included a picture with an original packing box.

Check out the link below too view what Ray Kimber has to say:

http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=general&n=521027&highlight=Belgarchi

Do a search on Oyaide, Audioquest and Kamber (yes, I think they purposely spell it wrongly) products and it's not difficult to observe that almost all the suspicious items come from Hong Kong.

Ttorigin, its not about you. Its about people in general who like to type cast certain race or pple from other regions which they are not familiar. Sure they are many fraudsters from the asia region. Likewise from europe, usa or any part of the whole.
I have bought stuff from UK and the con man was really smart to sent me tracking nos and actually sent me a package but a porno CD instead of beatles box set. Luckily I was able to make a credit card chargeback and got back all my money
In another incident, I bought a watch from Germany and when I realised the poor quality of the watch box , I demanded a refund and after much hassle I managed to get full refund
My experience tells me that I shouldnt buy anything if its too cheap and the shipping charge is unbelievably low and the seller seems to agree with all your request and this is regardless of their race and where they come from. Cheats are cheats, does matter where they are from

The moral of the story , buy from somebody who has healthy feedback, sell things cheap but not ridiculously cheap. Best of all buy from dealers and certain individual who is actively posting in audiogon. Avoid audioxsell. i had a bad experience recently and when I inform the moderator of the website about the fraud and I did it twice, the moderator didnt even bother to respons