cardas golden cros vs golden reference

Jmlab926,
True but I feel is too hot in that topic for me to comment there. In my case the Nordost SPM REF. was on the opposite side : completely flat & uninvolving & it seems to me as a faillure attempt by it's designer to catch the perfect achromatic monitor cable. Instead of this, it perceived by my set-up as a balanced but lean, flat & emotionless, (by saying balanced I mean that the leanness was spread across the whole spectrum) unable to move my senses and as such, I find it as an unreasonable & worthless effort. I didn't hear more detail, just less of everything else !
I'm sorry for avoiding reply there, but I'm doing the same where in the fields of VPIs, Sonus Fabers, Koetsus, Benz, & some others, in the fear of ... admiers may want to eat me alive.
I cannot accept the logic that we can find the perfect achromatic "invisible" anything. All we can do, is to search for an aesthetic view of calming completeness that engage our emotions.

George

George, that last line captures it so well:

"All we can do, is to search for an aesthetic view of calming completeness that engage our emotions."

Art

It depends on what you are using in your system. I have a Pass amp, Rowland Pre, and Ayon CD player. I primarily use Golden Reference. It is the speaker cable and all of the power cords. However, I use Golden Cross as the XLR interconnect between the CD player and the pre amp as it gives a shade more warmth. My cd player is detailed and the Golden Cross IC works nicely in that context. I preciously used Golden Reference but like the Golden Cross more as the IC.

I use several Cardas products in both of my systems - 2 channel and Theater. I agree with most of the posts I have read about Cardas cables - The Golden Reference, Golden Cross and neutral ref or all very musical cables. The Golden Cross is absolutely warm sounding cable - I find them adding some mid-bass and are very smooth and forgiving - the Neutral Ref are more open but still musical and the golden Ref I find a mix between the Neutral Ref & the Golden Cross.

what about golden presence?