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Using iPod Classic as music server

I finally decided to organize my music on a "server" using an iPod Classic that I got as a hand-me-down from one of my grandsons. In order to replicate music as accurately as possible I'm ripping CDs using Apples lossless CODEC. My understanding of these formats like FLAC and ALAC is that accuracy of replication is 100% and I'm finding that playback using earphones or good buds at least, seems that that is so.

However, when playing through my system, although good, playback using the iPod is not the same as when the source is the CD player. The information seems complete and obviously better than compressed versions I've heard but resolution and detail in the upper frequencies seems to have been softened.

My ability to compare these two sources is straightforward because I can have the same track playing on both sources and A/B using the source selector on the preamp. Now il get to my question.

First I need to say that the present system performs extremely well for my listening tastes so I'm not questioning the existing components. However, there are at least the 2 new issues of concern; one is the quality of the CD transport in the computer and the other is the quality of the iPod playback. I don't mean to imply that the playback from the iPod is terrible. As a matter of fact, it sounds quite good but a little softer/warmer than I prefer for critical listening.

There must be a reason why dedicated music servers are expensive and I'm assuming it has to do with reproduction quality as with other components in a system. I've never seen one so don't even know the process(es) for downloading music to them but, for several reasons, I want to pursue the use of a digital server of some kind. I'm, therefore, asking for corrections of my assumptions as well as some guidance toward making an intelligent choice.

My present system is: Shanling S-100 CD player, Peachtree Audio Nova as a preamp, Peachtree Audio 220 amp and Martin Logan Odyssey speakers.
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dogsonka
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Hi,you & I are trying to do the same thing with a ipod classic,you already have Peachtree electronics,so this should work great for you.Buy a used Peachtree idac,it is a ipod dock & DAC (it also has a lot of other digital inputs} then just plug your ipod into it & connect the outputs to your preamp,this will bypass the dac & power supply in your ipod & will sound way better than just hooking your ipod to your preamp.It comes with remote & will change tracks on your ipod.You can go to Peachtree & download the manual for these even though they are no longer available.These listed for 1000.00 new & you should be able to buy a used one for half of that or less,i think there is one on Audiogon now,i bought mine from e-bay for 380.00 with manual,remote,ipod adapters for different ipods,it is like new. this will make a huge difference in the sound quality of your ipod.This also has about 5 other digital inputs including usb that you could connect to your computer to play music files.You may even improve the sound of your Shanling,by connecting the outputs of it to the idac.I have magnepan 3.6 speakers & this setup made the highs sound way better & the overall sound was also greatly improved.
mezzrow
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I second the Pure i20 recommendation; great product, and you can't beat the price. It also has coax and optical inputs, and video output.
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broadstone OP
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I ordered the i20 this afternoon and will report back after I try it out. As far as the Peachtree Nova goes, I'll keep it because it has so much latitude of use as well as having a great front end. I already gave the Gigaware dock to a friend who will use it for background music in his store.
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broadstone OP
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Well, I finally got the i20 but still have nothing to report. The ad for the i20 dock lists the iPod Classic as one that it works with but fails to mention that the 60GB Classic does not support it. To evaluate it for my purpose which was to play lossless ripped and synced music files using the iPod as a music server, then, means that I'll need to buy a different iPod.

However, as a result of my more recent research I think I'm spinning my wheels if my understanding that mobile devices are limited to 64KPS is correct. If this, in fact, is the case the i20 will not be the solution to my attempt to achieve high quality reproduction and it will be relegated to a Pandora One player using my iTouch.

Before I invest in another iPod somebody please tell me that my understanding of this issue is incorrect.
doggiehowser
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Ah. The one you have isn't the Classic even though they share a similar form factor.

The older model the iPod Gen5 and Gen5.5 (60 and 80GB max respectively) aka iPod Video actually have a pretty decent DAC inside (Wolfson). Guess it was in the old days when the margins were pretty high. The newer ones use a much cheaper (and generally accepted to be worse DAC, Cirrus Logic I think).

You can modify the iPod Video to remove the cheap caps internally and replace them with better quality external caps to improve the sound quality. It's usually called the iMod - which were sold by RedWineAudio.

My iPod Video does work with the Wadia iTransport but in a limited capacity. I'd have to select the songs I want to play first, hit Play, then dock the player. Because once it's docked, the screen becomes "locked" and it displays a Wadia dock connected logo.

You might want to see if this works for you.
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