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Directional speaker cables - switching direction

Some time ago I started a thread regarding speaker wire directionality and my inability to understand how it could have any affect on sound quality. The question was inspired by the fact that, after quite a few years using them with my Martin Logan Odysseys, I discovered that the cables (Straightwire Octave 2) had arrows printed on them. Not surprisingly the opinions expressed were pretty strong on both sides of the argument but those supporting directionality were the most vociferous and in greater numbers, one to the point of being downright insulting. In no case, though, was an explanation given by those supporting the importance of cable direction for how this phenomenon occurs except that it should be obvious that when a cable is broken in in one direction only someone with an uneducated ear would be unable to discern the difference.

Even though I still don't get it I'm not taking the position that there is no validity to the directional claim; if there truly is I just don't understand how. This leads me to my two part question. I haven't been using the Octaves for a few years but now, because of cable length issues, I want to put them back in my system partly to avoid the cost of new quality cables.

IF, then, the directionality theory IS valid and I don't recall which way the arrows originally pointed or which direction they were "broken in" do those in support of directionality think I should install them with the arrows pointing toward the speakers
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scvan
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Am I the only one that clicked on the link and got 1000's of images of miscellaneous stuff?

Using the same logic, obviously hi-fi does not exist:
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I would really be interested in the study from hi-fi tuning. Can someone point me to a link?

I am willing to concede that, at this moment, not everything in the universe can be measured. But I will not concede that anything in the audio domain cannot be measured. If you can hear a difference there are microphones that measure it with much better accuracy than human ears.

Has anyone done these tests? tests To think a machine cannot out do you on this tests can easily be proven.

Some may disregard laws of physics on this board, but doing so just goes to show that they are clearly not open minded and willing to use evidence to make judgements.

I too believe in Santa Claus because you can't not measure his existence, he just has decided to not give me gifts in several years.
scvan
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I'm thinking that mono-crystal is the name used because single crystal is a real term and is only used in labs. Single crystal and mono-crystal are probably two different things.

Here is a piece of single crystal copper that is not as pure as Tara Labs claims their copper to be.

http://www.mtixtl.com/Mc-Cu-e-50D10C1.aspx

I'm considering buying some Tara lab cables, and sending them to a lab to see what they really are.
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almarg
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12-23-14: Scvan
I would really be interested in the study from hi-fi tuning. Can someone point me to a link?
Here it is. My comments on it can be found in the first of my posts dated 5-14-12 in this thread.

If I recall correctly, there was a revised version of this paper that was subsequently issued by HiFi Tuning, providing measurements of some additional fuses and incorporating some minor changes. I recall stating that my comments about the first paper remained applicable to the second one, but I can't find the link offhand.

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-- Al
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can you imagine what would happen If tara labs claim's was false?, I do not believe they would base their entire company on the claim of 8-nines mono crystal, super annealing process and not be what they claim, ha, ha,he,he, Im sorry, I got a good laugh out of that.
scvan
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I must say this post is really inspiring me, maybe it is the spirit of the season.

I'm thinking of starting some website that investigates claims of various manufacturers of all types of hi-fi goods. I see too much going back and forth, which is fine. But we should all have data on our sides to make a decision. Maybe a potential site that does measurement of goods, and then measurement of those goods in a fixed system. In addition to that, outside labs can give feedback. I think I am on to something here.

I would really enjoy this and I think it would bring clarity and openness to this hobby. Hopefully it would propel things forward in the positive way.
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