Thanks Tmhaudio. Sorry, I did visit Kochel before. But, in going there just now, I realize it was NOT the horn company I was thinking of. Still, I am know Kochel are top drawer in anyone's eyes(or ears). By the way, Edgarhorn makes a $1800 horn, but it is not the best(just checked Dick Olsher's site). Their better horns are well regarded by people like Harvey Rosenberg(think I'll check into his site now that we are into this 2A3 dialog). Now, that I think about it, there was another loudspeaker manufacturer I visited that looked VERY interesting. They make dynamic loudspeakers aimed at this market, and no one has ever heard of them(name has something nature or out west related - sort of like Montana loudspeaker, but we KNOW that they are not the company). I will try to get the name for everyone. Just give me a little time. I think we should all be proud of this thread. Great information, discussion, exchange of ideas, without the vitriol, personal attacks, ego, etc. that poisons many of the threads these days.