Phil, I wasn't denying your right to your opinion -- I didn't say that everyone would be happy with less efficient speakers, as you obviously would not be. But if you read Kweifi's latest post, you might agree, given the size of the room and the intended use, that he could possibly be satisfied with lesser dynamics or sheer loudness than might satisfy you in favor of other trade-offs, so your blanket rule might not apply to his particular case. So enjoy your system in peace -- but please don't state that your "need" applies to everyone, as I, for one, certainly don't "need" 100+ dB horns to enjoy my 2A3 and 300B-based systems, okay? You didn't say that "you" need those horns and he might too -- you made a rule for everyone, everywhere, who owns 2A3 amps, that horns, and 100+ dB ones at that, are "needed," thus denying anyone else the right to an opinion that differs from yours. BTW, what horns do you have? I'm curious if I've ever heard them, or if you designed and built them yourself. Regards, Mjm