Home Cinema Poisoning my System?


I love movies and enjoy tinkering with home cinema gear but my priority is music and I am concerned about the addition of home cinema equipment to my system and listening room. Is it possible to merely overlay the additional channels to an otherwise hardcore obssessive 2-channel system without ill effect? Rather than a combined system, it seems one could tap the audiophile pre-out into a separate processor/preamp/receiver etc which then went into the center and rear speakers, thereby being "separate" from the 2-channel system and switching the whole cheesey suburban Matrix demoing thing off when listeing to Wagner. Is this a popular configuration? If so, would it also make sense to use a matching stereo speaker for the center speaker instead of a home cinema center speaker? It seems to me that 3 ML SL-3s, for example, would be more "matched" than SL-3s and their center channel home cinema speaker. Thank you for your comments and ideas.
cwlondon
I was faced with the same dilemma as you, and rather than combine the two, I chose to put together a seperate home theatre system. Same room, two different systems. How do you fit so many speakers in one room? Well, I'm not about to move my Martin Logan ReQuests, so I found the smallest, decent speaker I could for HT, Gallo Nucleus. These speakers are about the size of a softball, mounted on the walls you barely notice them. The sub is the size of a bowling ball, and like most subs doesn't matter that much where you put'em. I picked up a NAD T760 Receiver and Toshiba DVD player, along with the Direct TV dish I already had, and voila, HT without contaminating my audio only rig. The HT electronics all fit in my 36" Sony TV base. Once finished, the whole thing cost me $2000 and does the job. The biggest pain in the ass and expense was running the wire (I used Monster 16 gauge with quality banana plugs); throw in various cables (RCA 75 ohm from the DVD, Toslink from the set-top box) and several S-Video and analog RCA IC's, and it was a little pricey and a pain. In any event, if you'd like more info or pics, feel free to email me at jefflo@istar.ca
I will probably be "flamed" for saying this, but I think you can combine 2-channel with home theater to good effect. Admittedly I started with multi-channel. But every upgrade was geared toward improving the 2-channel music experience. The two areas that, to me, seem to require some thought are preamp/processor and power amplification. Home theater requires extra circuitry compared to a traditional 2-channel preamp. Perhaps it is because of this that a preamp in the same price range as an A/V processor might sound better. But, many A/V processors have a "direct" mode that bypasses the digital circuitry for 2-channel listening. Some of the "big" names in 2-channel audio are beginning to offer A/V processor/preamps; they aren't cheap at $7000 - $15000. I did read a review from a guy that used two or three Audio Alchemy DLCs (a highly regarded 2-ch preamp) with a dobly digital processor to construct a home theater system. So, it is possbile to build one from 2-ch. components. Next, power amplification. You can either buy a multi-channel amp, three stereo amps, or five/six monoblocks (with a corresponding price increase). To me this is the easiest to solve. If you like your current 2-ch amplifier (be it stereo or monos) just buy more :); of course cost and space may be prohibitive. Again, some of the "big" names in 2-channel are offering five/six channel amps (some for quite some time). With respect to speakers there seem to be differing opinions. Yes, the speakers need to be matched (which usually means from the same manufacturer). But whether or not using "main" loudspeakers for center and rear is better than using speakers designed for center and rear I couldn't say. There is of course the issue of equipment placement...a monitor between the loudspeakers can destroy imaging. But, if have enough space the monitor can positioned welp behind the loudspeakers. Well, I guess I've written enough. Sorry if this post was too long.
buy a preamp that has a processor loop - plug yer processor into it & when ya swithch the preamp to this input, it defaults all the preamps' controls to that of the processor, so yer processor can run yer main speakers, as well as the surrounds. when yer listening only to 2-channel audio, the main speakers don't have to be run thru the processor's electronics. there are many preamps that are now set up to do this - linn, vtl, sonic frontiers, adcom; i'm sure there are many others.

doug

Same dilemma. I chose to combine the two as well. I now have a killer A/V system with what I would call killer 2-channel and 5.1 audio as well. No real magic to accomplish this. Like the previous post, I have Martin Logan ReQuets as my mains too. Killer sound for both operations. Here is the route I took (good luck): Martin Logan Requests (mains) Martin Logan Cinema (center) Polk F/X 1000s (rears) Bryston 7Bs (main amps) Bryston 3Bs (rear & center) Parasound AVC 2500 Pre-amp. (you can bypass the DACs with an upgrade. Naim CD5 for cds Pioneer Elite dv 37 for DVD I also have two subs, one to round out the Logans bass on 2 channel etc. I also have a Sunfire True Sub hooked to LFE out that only plays during movies. That was the only actual "split" I had to make to get great performance in both modes.
Cwlondon: Yes, the ideal would be to use 3 identical speakers up front. And one the these days, we may get a substantial quantity of well-recorded multichannel sound that makes good use of that center channel. The trouble, of course, is that a central tower speaker (or a bookshelf speaker on a stand) would have to go in exactly the same place that home theater places the video monitor. Hence the small horizontal design of center-channel speakers.