Audio Research REF600 MKI MKII

Jimj (or whoever you are): As a matter of fact, they do not belong to me. I am selling them for a good friend who needs the money and does not have internet access. They are probably the finest amps ARC has ever made. It does not mean that I would own them or that I think they are the best out there. They are certainly up there.

I actually sold a pair of Ref 600 MKII's for another friend because he was very unhappy for all the reasons I mentioned above. They simply are not as good as the Ref 300s. Ask ARC, or most ARC dealers, or anyone who has actually owned both, they will admit the same thing.

I said "ARC people do not know any better" because the service is horrible and because most peole do not get a chance to hear some of the other products available. ARC is "mainstream", easy to audition, easy to buy and easy to sell. There are so many excellent companies out there earning a customer's business and willing to do the "right" thing for their customers, while ARC continues to take the "they are better than their customers" approach. BAT for example has some of the best customer service I have ever experienced. They pay shipping and have incredibly quick turnaround time. Another company that I have heard is like that is Thor. I personally will never do business with ARC again. There are too many "APPRECIATIVE" companies out there that I would prefer to give my money to.

I have never had any dealings with you, as far as I know, and just because I chose not to get into a personal war with Dkuipers on that thread does not mean you have heard the whole story. He just is not worth my energy or time. You on the other hand may or may not be. That is left to be seen.

I answer you respectfully even though you choose to lower yourself to a level of name calling. You also choose to hide behind an obviously phony username. Maybe you are Dkuipers or maybe you are not, but certainly you are acting cowardly. Don't you have anything better to do than study my every move? I would think spending time listening to music would be much better use of your time.

Short of driving an amp into clipping, fewer output devices will almost always result in a more stable circuit that should measure and sound better under normal operating conditions. This is due to the fact there are fewer components in the total circuit, less chance for mismatches or differences in parts tolerances, less to go wrong, etc.... Sean
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Jtinn's credibility has been questioned by a one time poster. I should probably stay out of this but I hate to see a man such as Jtinn, who I have bought and sold audio gear being called a troll. Jtinn is honest, knowledgable and a valuable member. When Jtinn speaks I listen. The man knows what he is talking about. Thanks Jtinn for all of your help. It's a shame that this one time poster has caused you to defend yourself for giving your opinions. It's easy for me to see who the troll is.

It seems Jimj, that the only thing fundamentally flawed, is your hapless attempt to bring a personal agenda to an otherwise informative thread. I've had but few dealings with Jtinn myself, and have found him to be a knowledgeable straight shooter and have never questioned his credibility, as I have now yours.Pushing amps into clipping doesn't lead to superior sound?!?! Who da thunk! Thanx so much for that erudite offering.We're all richer for it.