Beethoven Symphonies - best perf + sonics on CD


My CD's of Beethoven's symphonies were all issued in the late 80's or early 90's and sound flat and two-dimensional, with a back-of-the-house perspective. Vinyl is more dynamic but I can't tolerate the surface noise during the quiet passages. So, fellow A'gon members, I'm looking for your suggestions for the best sounding (good tone, big dynamics, front row perspective) and most thrilling performances of Beethoven symphonies on redbook CD. Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
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Lowrider, complete with a descriptive review of the entire set;

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=102270
Lowrider, I have the Giulini/VPO Brahms you mentioned. It is wonderful. I also agree on the price for the Japanese imports, although I may pull the trigger on the Kempe/Strauss reissues when they are available. No one can touch Kempe on Strauss imo.
Almaarg, I also admire the Toscanini Brahms. I haven't listened to his 1st in a while. I will put that on my playlist.
I'll just throw this out there;

Immortal Performances RCA Victrola (re-pressings of the red seal deluxe edition) Toscanini and the NBC Symphony Orchestra Brahms: The Four Symphonies and "Haydn" Variations, Tragic Overture, Academic Festival Overture.

Library of Congress Card Number R67-3745

These sound better for some reason than any of the other original pressings of Toscanini Brahms on RCA.
Almarg's post reminded me of the Chesky series of Beethoven;
Rene Leibowitz/Royal Philharmonic. These were recorded in 1960 and have superb sound thanks to Chesky's tube-based remastering system.
Terrific performances with the most analogue sound I've ever heard on a CD. Very detailed, great soundstaging, and with the ambiance of being seated in the concert hall.
(but more expensive than mass-produced disks, which is understandable).
Al, Have you heard the Toscanini 1952 (NBCSO) recording of the 2nd? It is aural seratonin with just a dash of dopamine. Pure joy!