bi-wired mains / line-level sub


Hello,

I recently purchased some new speakers which are set up for bi-wiring.
My previous speakers only had a single pair of binding posts.
I had MusicMetre Signature (http://www.musicmetre.com/) quasi-solid-core, ribbon cables running them from my CODA (http://www.coda-continuum.com/) solid-state amplifier.
I also have some Apature (http://www.apature.com/) Signature 500 Plus 12GA multi-stranded wire available here.

My new speakers (http://www.vonschweikert.com/vr3_5main.htm) are set-up for bi-wiring -- which is also the suggested wiring scheme.
It was recommended to me to run the MusicMetre quasi-solid-core cables to the top (mid range and tweeter) and the Apature stranded to the bottom (woofers).
I have heard and read opposing thoughts on this.
Some say that the stranded wire is good for the bottom because of the extension and control; whereas, the solid core is better on top because of the softer, warmer, more detailed, and spacious sound.
But this does not seem to correlate well with other reports regarding highs running on the skin and lows in the core of the wires.
I have also purchased a sub-woofer (http://www.vonschweikert.com/vrs3main.htm) which will require a line-level connection.

I have yet to fire up the sub, but I started burning in and playing with the "satellites" over the past weekend.
I started out as suggested (multi-stranded on bottom / "quasi" solid-core on top) most of the weekend to get everything warmed up good and to establish a good mental image.
Sounded pretty good :-)
Then, I switched the wires around and the highs became much more pronounced and forward.
I kind of liked it at first, but it soon seemed to wear on me.
I liked the extra extension on top, but it was kind of cold/harsh sounding and not as open or spacious.
It was more difficult to notice the effect on the bottom, but it seemed to be more laid back this way.
I thought for a while that the bass might have been a bit tighter with the solid-core, but I was not certain.
After switching the wires back, it became immediately apparent that the bass was indeed more extended and pronounced with the stranded wires.
Also, the top was definitely a lot warmer, richer, smoother, and more spacious with the solid-core.

So the bottom line for my system is that the multi-stranded cables provide more extension and a louder, more forward character to both ends, while the quasi-solid-core cables provide a warmer and richer sound -- albeit perhaps a little bit subdued.

I definitely prefer it the way it is (stranded on bottom / solid-core on top), but I think I would really like something a little bit in between.
That's where some of the reviews I have read recently about the Goertz flat-ribbon, solid-core cables sounded very interesting.
There seems to be considerable talk about both aspects (extension and detail as well as the spacious, warm and clean sound).

I guess if I was to just have the VR-3.5s without the subwoofer, I would probably be inclined to leave things the way they are (to perhaps get a little bit extra bass).
But with the added subwoofer (which I still need to hook up), I don't know if perhaps I should rely more on the sub for the bottom end and pull back the bass on the 3.5s a little to get a more balanced sound???

Do any of you fine folks have any thoughts on the subject?

Much appreciated...
swbbb91
for the great info.

Yea...that's what I was thinking too regarding the sub-woofer.
That's why I have not messed with it yet.
It will only be used for the very foundation (20Hz - 35Hz).

Steve
Sounds like you're on your way to a very nice sounding system. Good luck and keep the volume down, will ya : ) Sean
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I finally did fire up the sub a little bit last evening.
Initially, being right there next to the speakers and with the sub and cable being brand new and cold, I was sort of dissappointed a bit that it wasn't particularly overwhelming to me.
I messed with the volume and crossover controls a bit and could not really get it where I wanted it.
It seemed to be either too much or not enough.
So I turned the sub completely off again to give the system another listen without it, and now I could tell a lot more by its absense.
Where the main speakers sounded pretty good before, now they sounded very light on the bottom.
I turned the sub back on and just set both controls (level and frequency) at mid dial, and then just went across the room and sat down.
I don't know if it was getting myself back away from things a bit or things having an hour or so to warm up (or both), but now it was really sounding pretty nice.
Very deep and TIGHT!!!
When the source material was there, the sub pounded it out quite nicely, I must say.
She really adds a nice foundation and punch to the overall sound.
Now I just need to continue burning and dialing in everything.
I think I'm gonna like it!

Steve