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I've finally lost it

Dear Fellow Audiophiles,

(This greeting sounds so much like the one in Signal Cables’ ads)

I heave a heavy cry for help hoping sane audiophiles, if any exists at all, can come to my aid.

(Looking at recent threads such as the one by Rick Schultz, I fear there’s few out there)

In the past few months, I’ve been in a terrible turmoil: a sickness, a disease.

I don’t understand it at all. So, I beseech your guidance, knowledge and, most of all, a good ass kicking for I fear I am that far from adopting a new religion to save my damned shoe horn.

Until a few months ago, I casually avoided all things analog as I perused through the audio pages be it web or hardcopy. I was only interested in monitors, quaint looking amps and redbook non-os cd players and dacs. But, as of these few months, I can’t get analog out of my head.

I have purchased a total of THREE LPs in the past month. I have maybe 200-300 LPs in a box that I purchased before CDs became prevalent to me in 1989. And, I hardly and ever will hardly listen to any of them ever again. Yet, analog hardware are hopping around my head like Daffy Ducks swimming around Elmer Fudd’s head after he sufferes a great accident.

I can’t keep my eyes off my laptop’s screen as I search for more and more information on turntables. What makes them tick? How do you make them sound better? Which brands are good? How much should I spend? MC or MM?

I’ve leaned towards the VPI Scout or Aries at first. But, I have a dreaded pet peeve against MDF as one of my speakers is made completely of MDF which I thought sounded awkwardly unnatural. I looked to Michell Technodec and Gryo SE which I still think are worthy choices. However, lately I found a review of Positive Feedback’s review of Bluenote’s polyvinyl Bellavista package which includes the Bellavista turntable, the Borghese tonearm and the Boboli cartridge.

I read the review with complete concurrence with every paragraph. Usually, I think Positive Feedback is just that. They have positive feedback for every product they’ve reviewed. However, somehow I felt this review has more journalistic weight than usual. I started researching all things Bluenote.

This isn’t the first time I became hawkish on one particular brand. I did fall heads over heels for 47 Labs as their Gaincard demonstrated to me a new level of resolution through the application of simple materials and set up. I still have the urge to get a Pitracer once I hit the lotto. However, this Bluenote thing doesn’t make any sense at all.

I have a total of THREE LPs that I want to listen to.
I am planning to buy the Bellavista Signature table, the U3 Singature tonearm, an Ortofon Kontrapunkt A or B cart as I read the Bluenote’s arms like heavy carts, and I want Bluenote’s own Phono1 MC phono preamp. I haven’t started nickel and diming the dealers yet, but I think I will spend close to $4000 by the time I am done not including wires and accessories. This means, at current time and purpose, it will be costing me $1333 for me to to play ONE LP.

Atleast with the 300 or so CDs that I listen to and about 200 CDs that are boxed up, the marginal return on investment on a Pitracer will be about $500 per CD. Still INSANE but not as INANE as the turntable investment! Nevertheless, I want a turntable!! I don’t know WHY. Maybe they LOOK sexy. Maybe I just want a new toy. Maybe I have some shortcomings that I want to emotionally supplement. I can’t figure it out!!

Anyways, I am posting hoping for moral or analog support. Even if I do end up splurging on this stupid turntable, at least I hope I spend my money intelligently as stupid as this whole ordeal seems to me.

My GF says I just want to spend money. Either she is making sense, or she’s turning into one of those controlling wives that has problem with the hobby of HIFI which I will need to hit the dating scene again if that is the case.

Thanks,

Ed
viggen
viggen OP
838 posts
 
Wellfed,

You pretty much stabbed another one of my irrationalities in the heart that I haven't exposed in this thread yet. The main reason I have stayed away, thus far, from analog is because of the lack of availability of the software of music I usually listen to. Most of what I listen to are small electronic pop bands which are not even available in most mainstream brick and mortar stores. Thus, most are not even made in vinyl.

If I do go analog, I'd pretty much buy what I already have on CD, whatever ones that are available in analog format, or explore new/old music such as the symphonies by broodish Russian composers, early big band swing and west coast jazz.

I am also keeping an eye on improving my digital set up. I don't want to get into hi rez as I really like the way non-os digital applications sound. However, right now I am using a NEC cd rom as my digital front. I got it from ebay for $20. It outplays all my previous dac/trans combos.

Thus, adding more to my irrationality. as I only have about $2000 in my system now (it was $8,000 a few years ago), yet I want a $4000 analog setup to play a virtually non-existent album collection.

Also, $4000 is actually already "starting small" as the tone arm and cartridges is purposely left for more room to improve relative to the table. I think I should atleast start with a table I can live with for awhile and upgrade the arm and cart later on. But, my budget is relative to what is available out there that I am interested in. As I don't see Bluenote as a viable option anymore, my budget is up in the air again.

Rene, what are you writing your dissertation on?
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wellfed
690 posts
 
Well then I hope you have answered your own question. Rationality now says you should apply the $4,000 towards tweaks.

BTW, did the word yesteryear have any type of effect on you? I did for me as I replied to you. I guess it inspires some kind of Currier and Ives image within my mind, not that there's anything wrong with that, and I just never saw myself as a candidate to use that word in a real conversation.
viggen OP
838 posts
 
Wellfed,

No, yesteryear didn't present any stigma to me. Maybe it would have if we're talking about fashion. I never heard of Currier and Ives so maybe that's why. My first inclination is to think it is some kind of hand lotion if I didn't read it on an audio forum. (Googled) Now I know it's artwork similar to that of Norman Rockwell but with a poignant realism that I've seen from some more modern artists but can't recall their names. One of these artist specializes in painting cute babies and bunnies holding butcher knives while cutting human bodies open.

And, the $2000 in my system includes BDR cones, granite platforms, speaker cables and interconnects, and ac treatment. = X

Actually, modernism would actually present me with more stigma. I see a neighborhoods filled with track housing that look exactly alike and are few inches apart... globalization without integrated safetynet for the needy, cars (same can be said of stereos) that drive like feats of demography rather than engineering... not to mention health care with doctors treating only symptoms and not the person.
restock
831 posts
 
Rationality would have told me that I should have never started with vinyl ten years ago either, and rationality is something physicists are usually good at (I guess this almost answers the question about the topic of my dissertation as well).

However, ten years later I would be missing all the great and different music, I got into because of picking up the records that were available or that I found in a friends attic and used record stores. The music I listened to at the time was not available on LP either. I originally started with about 5 records and no leftovers of pre-CD times (too young), now I got something on the order of 400 records of great music around that I would have not listened to before.

Of course if you remind me now that I have to move those 400 records in about half a year to a new job that might even be overseas or at least in a different country...
viggen OP
838 posts
 
then I'd be more than glad to hold on to your 400 records while you're galantly contributing to our country's GDP while away in a foriegn land.

I would think physicists are the least rational (in a good way) of all scientific and engineering people out there. Maybe I have no idea what I am spewing off about as I never really knew of any physicists, but I think it takes very unrational out of the box thinking to come up with quantam and electron fields theories and such. Then again, maybe I am speaking of the very small percentrage of physicists out there.

But I do see the rational irrationality of your progression from a vinyl adoptor to someone with a greater appreciation for music.

I shall keep your logic with me.
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