How do you get past the pops and hiss of LPs?

Rockinroni:

Boy, you are some piece of work!
So, your signoff is that people who prefer CD's are "losers" and "lazy clones." Why not just say ... 'our mothers are ugly' ... as well? Thanks for elevating the level of the discussion.

Regards, Rich

Viridian, I have a better idea of what you mean by dynamic range and signal to noise ratio, but even accepting that definition does not yield more than about 80db range for vinyl, while CD has at least 100db. And these figures I have measured using LP's and CDs. The direct to disc recordings (organ) has about 80db. BTW its surface noise is at about -70db. Pinned the needles at +10db!

Salut, Bob P.

Rockinroni, can we hope that you are abandoning this thread? If so, that should really clear things up!

salut, Bob P.

Veridian, yes, but I am talking about actual measurements and what the recording industry is (or has) actually done with the "theoretical limits". It is much easier to exploit the CD limits than the LP limits, hence the LP's contain less dynamic range as witnessed by my measurements. I might be off by 2-3Db, but that doesn't invalidate my findings.
I still love my record collection, it is just different from my CD's, not necesarily better.