Denon 3910 Universal Player - Opinions?

bwhite, the hdmi problem is universal whith all players when you use a hdmi/dvi adaptor, but this is something that is seen on a test disc more than actual video, and my newly ordered pj, has hdmi so its a moot point for me regardless.

Even though I am an audiophool first, I watch movies on a 110 plus inch screen and video artifacts can ruin any movie watching experience.
The 1000 shows NO excessive artifacting,and a fantastic picture and this makes all the difference in the world.

If video were as good on the audiophool brand universals (DV-50 ect), I would opt for one of those instead, but so far, it seems there not.

Also, if I could buy a dvd player that was anywhere near as good as the Onkyo 1000, that was dvd only, I would opt for that and go for a hi end sa-cd/redbook player instead of buying a universal and having it modified.

The 3910 and all other players have the hdmi/dvi adaptor problem also.

The Onkyo has no other problems that are not universal and the 2900 uses SI instead of the new buggy 2300 dcdi chip used in the 3910/5900.
The Onkyo/Integra also use a newer gen SI chip for video.

There is not one reported transport problem/failure to play discs ect problem on the SP1000.

You are right,about macro blocking being part of the dvd mastering,nobody will argue that, but Denon issued no fix for this, at least none that worked.

You would think that they would notice this while doing r&d for the original culprit, the 5900, but what they ended up doing is issuing a second player whith the same chip...the 3910, whith a cheaper build and power supply.
The 5900 not only had macro blocking, it had unacceptable exaggereated video compression noise and basically exaggerated all artifacts on any given dvd transfer.

I don't think I have owned 17 dvd players, but I have owned/tried many.

I had no problems whith either the Philips 963sa stock or modified,or the Sony 9000 stock or modified.
Every other player has had problems so far except the Onkyo, which I have only had for less than a week.

The thing is the 9000 was not as good for video as the 963sa, and neither are anywhere near as good as the SP1000 for video or audio.

Beleive me, I wanted to like the 5900, or I wouldn't have got a second unit after the first gave me so many problems.

I will post my results honestly, when I pick up a 3910...I have absolutely no brand loyalty for audio or video brands.

Greg

No problems on the Onkyo/Integra? Sure. Anyhow, I like this guys reply to you (you go by Greg T) on Audio Asylum Joe Murphy JR He brings up some major problems with the Onkyo. He seems to be rather well informed.

What about the guy who had his lock up all the time, was he experiencing a "universal problem"?

What about the "head and toe room" clipping bug on the Onkyo or the "black-than-black bug"?

Quote from the now infamous AVS user PooperScooper regarding the SP1000.

If you use HDMI or component you wont have the black-than-black "bug" problem. If you use DVI you will get *incorrect* - not what was on the DVD - video at times. DLP needs all the help it can get with blacks too (compared to CRT). This bug does not help, it hurts. It's your money, but buying $2k or $2.5K player that does this does not make sense to me, especially if you are using a player that passes btb now.

Nothing is perfect. The "technology" is just too new.

Ears, It's been nice chatting with you - we probably should have done this over the phone. :)

Let us know how the 3910 compares to your Onkyo when you get it.

Like I said already, ALL players have a hdmi/dvi handshake problem bar none, so what is your point already.

Perhaps you can reference the actual thread/user name of this person with disc reading problems, as I can't seem to find it.

Any way, none of this has anythimg to do whith the fact that Denon has problems whith the 3910, just like the 5900, and seeings how I have owned all these players and will try the 3910 this week, I would say I am defenitly an expert on universals as compared to you.....LOL

Now.. back to my Samual Adams.

The head and toe room cliping is the same exact problem whith hdmi/dvi connections have on EVERY player made.

I looked through every post and there are NO other reported problems, and no transport/disc reading problems from the Onkyo/Integra universals....not one single problem except for the universal hdmi/dvi toe room clipping ect problem,which is one universal problem whith all players, and in fact one in the same problem.

If you have an hdmi input, there is no problem at all.

Perhaps the other problems you thought you saw on the SP1000,were in reality, in one of the many 3910 threads filled whith complaints.

Have a great one
Greg