speaker cable; what to do?


Hi All,

bryston 3B ST power amp
paradigm studio referrence 60v2
12awg "speaker" cable from home center
25-30 feet between amp and speakers

What should I do to improve stage, bass, image ...
Make speaker cables, move amp and use longer ICs between pre and power amps???

Thanks
George
gthiel
Hi. The distance is not a problem since your gauge is big enough. I would not spend a fortune on cables (what is your budget?) since I personally don't think that they can make a gigantic difference. I did however buy all MIT Terminator 2s (speaker biwires and ICs) and find them wonderful. Although don't pay list or they won't be worth it - a true statement for most "expensive" cables I think. I tried all kinds and found little variation between them but the MITs edged them all out by just enough in soundstage, bass, warmth, and detail to warrant me getting them. I am running Paradigm Reference 100v2 (LOVE them) and Mcintoshes.
Good luck! Arthur
george: first thing, move around your components. second, ignore everything aball says (but for "good luck"). getting even "entry level" speaker cables of 8 feet or less will improve your system. after you've reconfigured your setup, spend as many hours as you can stand repositioning your speakers for maximal sound. THEN begin your journey on the upgrade path, listening to as many pieces as you possibly can. -cfb
Yes you really need to try some real speaker cables. Contact Bob Cohen at Cable Company www.fatwyre.com for suggestions regarding what to try out &/or for some of their loaner cables to experiment with. For a length that long, a networked cable would likely work better. Transparent makes the very expensive ones & MIT makes the affordable ones. Joe Abrams (membername = joeabrams) can help with great advice, recommendations, & great pricing on MIT. Be aware though that networked cables take a lot of bashing from the un-initiated; I laughed too until I tried some, but then I bought more.
Also try out some loaner upgrade AC cords from Cable Company, per their rec's. When you find the right cords for your setup, everything will improve including bass, stage & image etc.
Also get some good contact cleaner for all your connections if you haven't been doing so already. Kontact is my favorite; there are several others to chose from.
Cornfedboy has his opinion and I have mine. There is no point belittling anyone's opinion otherwise forums would not exist. Try different cables and see for yourself.

There is a difference but my point is that $8000 cables (Kharma Reference) did not sound hardly better (i.e. much less than 40 times - like maybe 1.5 times) than my $200 MITs. Consequently, I admit that Wal-Mart speaker wire does not sound far better than my MITs (perhaps 3 or 4 times) but this difference was worth the money I was willing to spend. That is the key and is obvious in all situations. I am an electronics engineer and have even tested cables with a precision oscilloscope and impedance calculations and find small differences. AS A LAST NOTE, THIS IS MY OPINION and am not belittling anyone else's no matter how moronic it is.

By the way, I agree contact cleaner and paste is a good idea.
Arthur
oh man this is getting painful...
little difference between zip cord & Grand Reference?
...sure sounds moronic to me...
No doubt this is based upon extensive experience; & how does that scope sound anyway?