Who will survive? One last table til I die.

Dear Cello: " Bye Raul "

Please don't go. Now what I can do with out you. ¡ Please come back. !

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Gregadd, if you believe H-Cat's designer, Roger Paul, all electronics substantially color music as some frequencies pass immediately and others are delayed, what he calls Dopler shifts. I have not heard his amp as yet but can indeed tell you that you have heard nothing until you hear the Dopler free H-Cat preamp and phono. If you think you have heard an accurately reproduced trumpet you are wrong.

But the reality with which we all have to live is that speakers cannot reproduct music with much accuracy especially in most rooms.

I have spent forty years pursuing realism in music reproduction, and hopefully will spend many more. There is no question that what I am hearing now far surpasses what I heard those many years ago.

As to the laws of physics, I think few scientists would claim we have lawful relationships that much predict the performance of amplifiers or speakers.

Doppler shift would be measurable as a function of time delay. A shorter signal path would introduce less time delay, hence less potential for the Doppler effect to come into play. How many manufacturers have you ever seen quote "time delay" as a spec? I've only ever seen ONE. Sean
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Tbg, can you refer me to some nore info on H-Cat? I didn't see anything in the manufacturer section. When some frequencies are delayed and others aren't it is usually refered to as phase shift or group delay. Doppler shifts have to do with relative motion between the source of the sound and the ear. I've never heard it applied in this manner, but I would interested to read Roger Paul's explanation.

Rushton, I went back and read the Stereophile article which is the subject of so much discussion on this thread. If I had done that in the beginnig I would have ended my comments on this thread long ago. I will continue to read Raul's post but I have nothing else to say on this thread.

TBG... This is your first post on this thread. I can only assume you did not read my previous posts. I continually caution people not be sucked in by the spec of the month and the component that claims to be perfect because it claims to solve that problem. I continually caution people that the true evaluation of music reprodction is what you hear through your speaker in your room.

IMHO I have heard many systems come errily close to producing an accurate reproduction of one or more musical instruments. Unfortunately they disappointed me in other areas.

I have been involved in audio for thirty-something years. I am not so sure that there has been that much progress in the high end. Most of the "ground breaking" equipment has been either impractical or too expensive for me. What has changed over that period is my abilty to identify good source material, identify musical equipment and too wade through the bullshit that permeates so much of the high end. I also am able to spend a little more money.

I have stated before that we lack sufficent measurements to examine what music reproduction equipment is actually doing. Unlike mans law the laws of physics cannot be broken. We may not know how to quantify them, we may ignore them, but we can't break them.

Rushton... now I'm finished.