Used Classe CDP 0.3 or new Music Hall CD25?

Bianchi,

That is exactly the problem- you should never base ANYTHING in an audio forum on political reasons! You admit it yourself. That is why it is dangerous to make comments like that, especially with all the current events around the world today. The least we need now, is an even more divided world. Learning to put aside political, religious and discriminatory statements makes discussion much more positive and educational in an audio forum. I know you do not mean bad, but whether we agree or disagree about politics, religion etc, in the audio world there is no discrimination based on such. The criteria should be on the quality, design, and merit of the products.

I do not endorse Music Hall and actually prefer Classe between the two, but never would I ever be caught making discriminatory or political statements- there are other forums for this type of opinion. Enough said.

Happy Listening!

Zenaissance

I think it's fine for Bianchi to say here that he doesn't buy from China for political reasons. For many of us, next to our houses and cars, our audio system is our largest purchase, so a reasonable place to make an politcal/economic statement.

It's not "discriminatory" to suggest, for example, that many Chinese work in conditions most of us would consider horrendous.

On the other hand, next time Bianchi will probably realize that "nuff said" doesn't quite say enough!

p.s. I have heard these both (but not side-by-side) and they are both to my taste. The Music Hall is surprisingly non-digital for an inexpensive player. I'm afraid that doesn't help, but I would personally be happy with either one.

If cost were similar, I would go for the Classe to match your preamp, on the thought that since you can't audition in your home, you can trust that the Classe people have done some system matching.

Ehart,

I agree with your comments to some degree but still- it is better to leave politics out of the equation especially when the person is asking about the merits of an audio product- not where one's political alliance may lead to. For example, given the recent tension between the US and France, does that mean I should bypass French audio products just because there may be a political problem here? Likewise should the French audio consumers avoid US products because of some anti-American propoganda?

If a product mates well with my system whether it is Krell from the US, Jadis from France, or Red Rose manufactured in China, then that is what matters most. Besides, half the products out there is already made in China. The statement that Chinese work in conditions that are horrendous is not necessarily true- it is not comparable to sweatshop labour in some parts of Central America. In fact, China is very modern- in some ways (certain industries) even more so than many Western countries- that is why so many large multi-nationals have a manufacturing base in China because of the higher quality control at a lower labour cost. Rotel products are made in China; so are Red Rose etc. Yet they do sell quite well. It is always great to support a home-grown product, but if it doesn't match, then one must make other decisions. Speaking of Classe, if someone was anti-Canadian, would it be wrong to recommend it to him? After all, it is up to the person to decide whether he chooses to buy the product, and it is not up to us to decide for him where his political or economic preferences may be. He may share our views, but we have no business to tell him which country he should avoid buying from etc.

Happy Listening!

Zenaissance

zenaissance are you for real? politics aside 98.4567% of stuff coming out of china cant touch the high end stuff coming from the states.this is coming from a canadian whos owned lots of chinese,british or whatever.the guys rigth but for the wrong reason.i can get a paper wieght made in china for $6.99{canadian that is}why would i pay $700.