Results from Beta Testers of New Formulas


Hi everyone,

Please use this thread to post the results of your testing of the 2-step formulas. Thank you.

Best regards,
Paul Frumkin
paul_frumkin
Hi everyone,

I wrote to Dave and asked to go ahead and be liberal with using the formulas -- I'll send more if he needs more to complete valid testing. I make the same offer to everyone else. If you need more fluid, let me know and I'll send you more.

Best regards,
Paul
I received my samples on Saturday. The first album I tried was my Johnny Hodges, "Blue Notes" which has some scratchiness that drives me crazy. I was expecting a miracle cleaner. After cleaning album still has the same scratchiness. In other words this is not a "miracle" cleaner(it won't fix worn out albums). I will keep looking for a better copy of Johnny. Other albums that I used for my test were from garage sales that I purchased that day and needed cleaning. I first used my normal popular solutions, which is also a 2 step process, on one side and Paul's solutions on the other. Visually I could tell that Paul's would remove all of the fingerprints and the other solution would only remove a portion.
I have tried this method on a few others and the results seem to be the same, Paul's visually look cleaner, which should mean cleaner sound. There is definitely less surface noise. I also have been very conservative on how much I have been using, so maybe I am not seeing the full benefit of these solutions. Would it fix my Johnny hodges? Who knows.
Paul I would like to try a larger sample 6-12 oz of each and I would like to reimberse you for the expense of the materials and postage.
Yes, Paul, I'd be happy to pay you for the larger quantity, too, and thanks for offering. Dave
Hi Paul,
I too would like a larger quantity and would be more than happy to reimburse you for any/all costs. Thus far I am very impressed with the promise your product holds. Thanks again.
Ok, so here is what we got going on tonight:
I pulled out 4 LP's, all of whom have known "issues" with noise. All of them have been in my collection since I was a teen/college student. They are:
Beethoven "String Quartet, Op.131" Bernstein/Vienna Philharmonic (DG 2531 077)
Bill Evans "New Jazz Conceptions" (Riverside RLP-223)
Santana "Caravanserai" (Columbia KC 31610)
Al Stewart "Year Of The Cat" (Janus JXS-7022)

The Bill Evans LP was cleaned using the two solutions several days ago and has been played twice since then. Before playing tonight, dry swept with Decca brush while on the table. All the other Lps were cleaned (both sides) tonight prior to playing.

There is no question that these formulai (formulas?) are very effective at reducing surface noise. All of the air and detail is restored to the LPs, and I think the reason we are hearing this is really very simple: CGMCM Clean Grooves Mean Clean Music. This two step process does a very good job of getting deep down into the grooves and lifting the grunge and getting it off the disc, allowing the stylus to track a nice clean groove. My stylus is staying cleaner, and in the case of the Al Stewart LP, I hear stuff again on it that I have not heard since the day the seal was broke on it in 1977. It's not changing whats on the vinyl, but it's cleaning the vinyl to a degree that allows me to listen to the music, and not the dirt and dust and junk that has gotten into the grooves over the years.

The Evans disc sounds just as quiet and good with just a sweep of the dry brush prior to playing.

I have treated/cleaned over 20 LPs so far and as long as long term vinyl degradation does not become an issue, I am convinced of the efficacy of this stuff.