Results from Beta Testers of New Formulas


Hi everyone,

Please use this thread to post the results of your testing of the 2-step formulas. Thank you.

Best regards,
Paul Frumkin
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I noted that with my home made and Paul’s cleaners that some surface noises still present after cleaning; but few days later when I listen the same LPs again the surface noises were significantly lesser than before. I assumed that over time the remaining dirt got loose and got cleaned off the record with the needle without causing a noise. When I used the enzyme #1 solution alone, the sound seemed smoother and laid back. I guessed that some of the enzyme still coated the groove and acting as a lubricant. The #2 alcohol solution is to further remove the enzyme. I normally dip the whole record into distilled water to rinse the cleaning solutions before vacuuming. I definitely have Paul’s cleaning solutions around for dirty records.
Mrkidknow,
Some interesting ideas you have there. It makes sense that the longer the enzymatic sits on the surface, the better the chances are for loosening up the proteins and other assorted nasties that get into the grooves.

Never thought about about the gentle heating idea. What method(s) would you suggest to use? Further, should there be a concern about the breakdown in the efficacy of the enzymatic due to repeated heating and cooling of the solution?
Paul, given that, as several have suggested, the first solution may be left on for several minutes, I find that I tend to use more of it on the record to make up for evaporation. Would it make sense for you to sell the first solution in twice the quantity as the second to account for this?
Slipknot ... yes, Mrkidnow remarks on that issue. Repeated heating will break down the enzymes, rendering them less effective. Rather than heating your whole supply, just heat the portion you're going to use.

Placing the enzymatic formula in a container, and then heating it gently with hot water, would work well. Don't get the formula hot: you don't want to melt any modulations. Warm to the touch will work well.

Jyprez, the formulas will be sold under the "Audio Intelligent" brand name. They will be available as concentrates in both 4 oz. glass bottles and 8 oz. Nalgene bottles. Their concentration level is set to be diluted 7:1 with distilled water. So the 4 oz. bottle will make 32 oz. of formulas (1 quart), and the 8 oz. bottle with make 64 oz. of formulas (1/2 gallon).

I will also make the cleaner available in a ready-to-use formula made with ultra-pure water ... sold in 32 oz. HDPE squirt bottles. I hope to set up my ultra-pure rig in the next couple of days.

But specific to your question ... don't be stingy with the cleaner formula: it's what makes sure you get all of the enzymatic, plus oils and grease, off your LP.

Best regards to everyone,
Paul
Paul, I guess I should learn to read more thoroughly.I went back and re-read MrKidknow's post, and - sure enough- it's all there. I'll try the heating method with a small batch and see what happens.

Still getting consistently positive results. LPs are cleaner, quieter with no loss of fidelity or dynamics. Clearly attributable to much cleaner grooves.