Results from Beta Testers of New Formulas

Hi All,
First of all, I would like to thank Paul for sending me samples and including me in the test group.
Secondly, I have to apologize for taking so long to post my results. I received the samples some time ago, but I was out of town for a while and never really had the spare time to perform thorough testing as planned.
I have used his formulas over the past couple days and the immediate impression that I have gotten is that extensive testing is not as necesary as expected. The results are far from subtle.
For reference, I am currently using a homebrew solution of about 12% isopropyl w/ a couple drops of soap. I have used a few of the commercial cleaners in the past, and I came to the conclusion that the results of my mixture was "close enough" to the commercial stuff to not justfy the prices charged (Yes, Im a cheapskate)
I wasnt expecting much out of Paul's cleaner, and likely would not have tried it if it was not free. I am not going to go into to much detail about my trial and the results, because I can see from the above posts that others who are undoubtedy more qualified than myself and have higher resolving equipment have done much more thorough testing. I can say, however, that my experience is similar. Noise floor and clicks & pops are dramatically reduced, while dynamics have increased.
Those microscopic Audio Ninjas kick some serious tail!!
I look forward to this formula being available for purchase.
Thanks Paul, and I hope my little review is helpful to any lurkers out there who may read it.

Regards,
Andrew

Hi everyone,

I'm pleased to announce that I've posted a commercial ad for AUDIO INTELLIGENT VINYL SOLUTIONS. Here's the URL:

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?anlgtabl&1101803723

A big "THANK YOU" to all the beta testers, who so carefully tested the products and posted their feedback. Truly, this was an Audiogon collective group project. The beta testers literally held the power to approve or disapprove of any marketing of these products. Prior to their testing, I did not know any of the beta testers. Their uniformly very postive reviews were gratifying. In addition, the offering of a ready-to-use product made with ultra-pure water was the result of an Audiogon member's (Psychicanimal) input. Again ... thank you for taking the time to test and post your objective results.

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Warmest regards,
Paul Frumkin
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The information that Mr Kidknow posted is consistent with the information that a NASA employed chemist once told me. That is, i was told that every increase in temperature by 20* effectively doubled the cleaning power of a solution. Given the variables involved in each solution, i would call that "close enough" to the 18* mentioned above.

Given my past experience with active enzyme formulations, they typically work best if left on for a longer period of time, they are agitated during that time and airflow is kept to a minimum. Not only does reduced airflow lower evaporation of the liquid agents suspending the enzyme allowing it to travel more freely and cover more area, it also helps to retain the original operating temperature of the solution, which increases efficiency as mentioned above. In extreme situations, a thorough enzymatic cleaning and rinsing along with a repeat enzymatic treatment and rinsing at a later date may provide the best results possible. The more thorough that one can maintain a higher operating temperature of the enzyme once applied ( by covering the LP with a large pan or bowl that was possibly even pre-heated, etc.. ) and agitate the enzyme on the first application, the less effective the secondary treatment will be though. This would be a good trick though as you have to have LP exposed to ambient air temperatures in order to get at the surface to agitate the grooves.

Given the information presented within this thread and the "cleaning power" of Paul's solution, it's quite possible that one could devise a somewhat complex cleaning ritual for specific discs that they value. It's possible that one could restore heavily soiled / barely playable LP's to easily played / highly enjoyable records. While i have not tried Paul's solution as of yet, i don't doubt the results that others have had using it. I think that it would be of great value to those "record hunters" that frequent used record stores and / or garage sales & flea markets.

With all of that in mind, i guess Paul has now officially made the transition from a "civilian" to an "industry professional". Congratulations to him and i hope that his time & effort that he's put into this product will reward him handsomely : ) Sean
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PS... While i'm all for ethical participation of manufacturers / distributors / dealers within these and other forums, they need to disclose their business affiliations. Having said that, I think that Paul has been up-front about the whole situation, so he deserves a little help marketing his product since he's new at being an "industry professional". As such, here's his one time "get out of jail free" card and a more convenient link to the Audio Intelligent Vinyl Solutions products : )

I offer my congratulations also Paul. I'm glad to say that I'm now a paying customer having ordered enough to keep me cleaning records for quite some time. Best wishes...Patrick

Just supporting what Sean contributed. Enzymes are used during the digestiion process. And, there are many types of enzymes from protease to lactase (one which I lack).

One major factor that leads to greater effectiveness of enzymes, as Sean has already described, is temperature. One of the main reasons mammals are warm blooded is because we can supply our own "furnace" when digesting; a distinct advantage over cold blooded organisms. The other two factor would be how concentrated the enzyme is and how much velocity/viscosity, agitation, is involved between the enzyme and what is being digested.

So, warming up the enzyme a bit might prove to increase its effectiveness on your records. Dunno if that will harm your records though but doubt it as the type of enzyme being used here seems to be protease which doesn't have chemical reaction with anything other than protien.

dislaimer: i am not a biologist just a charlatan as i am with audio.