Electrocompaniet EMC-1: let's talk?

Jayme.
It's not too hard. The new DAC (UPCC-1) was put into production in late spring of 2001, having the so-called "UP-DAC" (for upsampled DAC), and going from $4k to $5k. These units came to be known here as the MkII. For awhile in Europe you could buy BOTH 24/96 and 24/192, the latter more expensive, of course. I believe that in August 2002 all production of these EMC-1 have the latest analogue upgrades...with the accompanying price rise from $5k to $5500 here in the US. List price in Europe used to be about
$2200 ($4khere) up to Spring 2001 (when I got my 24/192).
Now it's about $3k ($5500 here). I'm about to get my 24/192 modded with the analogue "UP"-grade soon...anyone tell me if it TRULY sounds better? How? Thanks.

Subaru guy: thanks for the further clarification. Regards.

Hey, I don't appreciate being called a horse ;-) In all seriousness, Jayme has a VERY valid concern. A customer obtaining an EMC-1 that is advertised as the latest, and is not, is a very real possibility (whether the seller does it on purpose or not is a whole other can of worms). For example, I am 100% certain that the used player currently listed on Audiogon, based on what the seller states in the ad (even though it says "UP" on the player), is NOT the latest version. The EARLIEST that the latest upgrade became available to the public was late this summer (August timeframe). As is indirectly stated above, there are some players out there WITHOUT the latest upgrade that DO have the "UP" designation, so that is no guarantee.

So, what is the best way to tell?

*** OPEN ONE OF THE LEFT OR RIGHT COVERS AND CHECK THE CAPACITOR BRAND, IF THEY SAY "ELNA", THE UNIT IS NOT UPGRADED ***

I can say with 100% certainty that ALL EMC-1's shipped from the distributor to dealers since at least September are the LATEST version. So if you are buying an EMC-1 from an AUTHORIZED dealer and they took shipment from the US distributor in September or later, it WILL be the most recent version of the EMC-1.

I realize this is somewhat confusing and a big pain, but I hope this helps. Please don't hesitate to let me know if anyone has any questions.

Best Regards...Mike - Father & Son Audio

How can you tell if has the upgraded 24/192 dac?

so what does that mean to someone willing to buy the emc listed. can it be upgraded and at what cost.