Subwoofer opinion badly needed!


Hi. I'm looking for a sub to be used primarily for MUSIC (say, 98% of the time), that costs under $500, and will be used in a small/mid-sized room (approx. 18x12') with the following: Harmon Kardon AVR20II receiver Infinity RS225 (reference series speakers) I've had the following recommended but am still uncertain and would really like some 'sound' opinions. Keep in mind the main use is for music. Thanks!
matt_stutts26147
try to find a Yamaha YST-500. It really is a very good sub and is a lot more musical than you'd expect to find in this price range. I have seem the go for as little as $200 and as much as $350 used. The cost around $800 new.
If you have to get a sub I would go to audioc.com and get a "quake" or stretch for the "titan" as one other said. I don't have experience with either though, What I can say from experience is that a better pair of main speakers is the way to get better bass (while maybe not being as deep, definately more coherent and cleaner), not to mention everything else will be better. Sell the infinity's and take that money, plus your $500 budget and buy a nice set of mains. The BiroMod Wharfedale Diamond 7.2's at www.avahifi.com for $250 actually look tbetter than alot of stuff out there, and you could probably get your sub in the end too if your just dying to have one and it'll all be within your budget. I own the biro L/1's and those are very nice and I'm not running a sub yet with all my hybrid tube/solid-state electronics. My general opinion on the application of most subs is that they are a cheap fix for a not-so-good pair of front speakers and/or an amplifier(s) that are underdamped in the low-frequencies. And then of course there are sloppy DACs. If you got your bases covered on all that then a sub may be a *musical* choice. If your a music person, you'll probably be happier w/ just a better pair of speakers. Not to mention, you might want to get a nice little integrated amp (nad?). You could probably do a complete overhall, for your sub price range plus what you make off selling others. Keep in mind I'm not trying to divert you in any way, I'm just saying you'll get the better bass your wanting, not to mention everything else. But I, personnaly, wouldn't buy a sub. The marantz cd-67's used are running in the low 2's used as are good integrateds. I actually got my sister a pair of rotel pieces for $200 each demo's, cd player and 35wpc integrated. I can't say they are the best budget pieces, but they were 'new' and they matched. Good luck!
Given that you want a sub for music (rather than LFE), and have only $500 to spend, your choices are VERY limited. Buying a used sub is one approach, or you can buy a model that is being discontinued. I have just purchased an AR S300 powered sub (built-in Carver 300-watt Sunfire amp) to use for home theater, and find that it's a much better sub than I expected for the money. It has several hook-up methods, features a phase switch and a contour switch for either audio or video. The cabinet is very solid (50+ lbs), though hardly an item of great beauty. This sub is currently on a discontinued sale for $359 through a company in Florida called Accessories4Less. Check their Web site (www.accessories4less.com) for more info. They are also selling the 15" AR S500 (500 watts), but I think the 12" unit will be more satisfying with music. Heck, for $400 (with shipping), you sell it for what you paid if you are dissatisfied.
Matt: a follow-on comment. If you decide to explore the AR powered sub I mentioned in my previous post, there are a number of reviews of this sub listed on AudioReview. Go to the following Web link: http://www.audioreview.com/reviews/subwoofer/
I am partial to the ACI Titan2 although even building it yourself will cost more than $500.00. I have seen lots of used Titan 1's for sale @ 400-500 though. The REL's also sound good as do the Velo's. I doubt that you can find a used Velo for $500.00. Check out ACI's website at www.audioc.com. They have a used area that you may be able to find a Titan on. Good luck, Kwillyp