"Used"Revel F-30 or AP's Virgo II: Better Value?

go for the aps.

FOLLOW-UP REQUESTED BY THE 'GON regarding my equipment. I have an Aragon 4004Mk2 amp; Conrad Johnson PV-8, pre-amp(modified twice for lower noise floor) Sonographe SC-1 CD player. VPIJr. T/T with Audioquest and Sumiko Blue Point special moving coil. I have no speaker wire to date after sellling my previous speakers. All pieces are respectable hi-end, but also 12 years old. After deciding on speakers, I will probably upgrade to a Bel-Canto Evo200.2,and shortly thereafter a new CD player. I anticipate using Analysis Oval 9 for speaker cable. Though, I have heard some very good things about Zen Acoustics,"Satori" cable which also seems overpriced. Room size is 15X18 with a 13 ft ceiling; the room is more round than rectangular and opens into a dining area. My goal is to create a holographic soundstage that is both accurate and musically involving without spending $15,000. Thank you, SJ

FOLLOW-UP REQUESTED BY THE 'GON regarding my equipment. I have an Aragon 4004Mk2 amp; Conrad Johnson PV-8, pre-amp(modified twice for lower noise floor) Sonographe SC-1 CD player. VPIJr. T/T with Audioquest and Sumiko Blue Point special moving coil. I have no speaker wire to date after sellling my previous speakers. All pieces are respectable hi-end, but also 12 years old. After deciding on speakers, I will probably upgrade to a Bel-Canto Evo200.2,and shortly thereafter a new CD player. I anticipate using Analysis Oval 9 for speaker cable. Though, I have heard some very good things about Zen Acoustics,"Satori" cable which also seems overpriced. Room size is 15X18 with a 13 ft ceiling; the room is more round than rectangular and opens into a dining area. My goal is to create a holographic soundstage that is both accurate and musically involving without spending $15,000. Thank you, SJ

I wouldn"t be worrying witch speaker is the better value but rather witch speaker if either of these two move you. Have you listened to either of them? Let that be your guide and not value or what someone else thinks.

I heartily agree with Lokil.
You'll have your hands VERY full maneuvering these full-range guys around to try to smooth out large bottom-end non-linearities in your "too-cubic" room.
Start with a nearfield setup in a tight triangle to keep those woofers away from the corners.
You MAY have to go to 2-ways with or without a sub to get a flat in-room response.
I DO really like the F30, especially used under $2500.
Far nicer in a small-medium room than Nautilus 804/803, for example. I had to get Parsifals to do considerably better!
Have fun, and be sure to dampen the hell out of that room!