Does anybody know what's wrong with Tyler's bass?


I have checked some reviews on Tyler's Reference Monitors (I mentioned that I am planning to upgrade my Paradigm S-40) and found that everybody likes thier mids and highs but they say that Tyler's bass is "bad news" (from SOUNDSTAGE review).
Does anybody have any experience with those speakers to confirm or deny that?
How is this bass in comparison with Paradigm reference monitors?
Thanks
danieldobrovetsky
bryston distributes the pmc loudspeaker line which obviously is a good match for your system but i'd have to add that the tylers aren't going to do much more than the paradigms other than empty your wallet...
Hi Daniel,

JRD thinks there will not be much improvement, he may be right. GIGO, garbage in, garbage out, is what will determine if the Paradigms or the Taylo's will work better for you. The Paradigm line is, from top to bottom, designed for mass market mid-fi systems. The Stutio line is made up of good solid, great value for the money speakers. No owner of one need apologize for them.

Be that as it may, if you have a really nice high resolution system, the Taylos are going to spank the Studio line. If you are thinking 2 way, and are not going to go HT, you may also want to consider the Ellis Audio 1801b's. Some are going to tell you that the Scan-Speak Revolators are the best, some prefer the Hiquphons, but I don't believe either camp will tell you that one will wipe the floor with the other, they are both top knotch.

The bass with either the Taylo's or the Ellis 1801b's is nice and tight, that is, they are VERY accurate, but they are not as extended as some want/need. If you listen to pipe organs, some classical, etc., then you will want to augment with a sub, if you listen to jazz, country, and other such types, then it will be FAR less important.

YMMV,

Lou
The new Tyler Linbrook Floor Standers would be something to consider. I bought a pair about 6 months ago and I love them. They use the better tweeter that is found in the Linbrook line. You get the same woofer as in the Taylo but the cabinent has more volume so it sounds fuller. They stand about 42 inches and are front ported. They are only a couple hundred more than Taylos and stands. Ty keeps telling me he will post info on his website soon. I think he will sell a ton of them if he does because it is a great speaker.
I owned tylers for sometime before selling them for a much cheaper set up (The amount of music I listened to , did not warrant the expense). The tylos use seas woofer and scanspeak tweeter. Check out partsexpress.com and see how much they cost for a pair. The revelator tweeter costs $200 each! And the seas woofer is almost $140 ea!! That almost $700 in driver cost! Now add in the crossover parts, and the excellent cabinets!!! On audiogon, you can get these for about $1100.00. Unless Ty gets the drivers at a substantial discount, I cannot figure out how he can sell these speakers and make a living.
I have found sometimes that I thought speakers were limited in bass when it turned out that my cabling was the problem. Some cables with deep bass are Quatrofil, Cardas Golden Reference, Analysis Plus Oval 9. Might we worth a shot.
Art