Caliper Signature vs Duetta Signature?

The Duetta is bigger. Don't know about $ for Calipers. I've enjoyed my Sigs for 7 yrs now.

Depending on the size of your room, the Caliper Sigs may be all you will need. The Duetta Sigs will have better bass responce in larger rooms. I own Centaur Minor and Duetta Signatures.

Dave

Thanks everyone,

Dave - The room is quite huge (25'X30 with ceilings vaulted from 9'-16'). My guess is that Duettas or even Divas would probably be more appropriate.

Out of curiosity, how do you like the Centaurs? I owned a pair for about 3 hours. I found that the ribbon and 6" woofer did not integrate well at all. They also seemed rather dull and lifeless. I was using a Forte Model 4 (50wpc pure class A) to drive them in a very small room (11X13), so I don't think that amplification was a problem. I then bought a pair of MMGs and they worked terrific. Was I doing something wrong?

Gullahisland

My room is only a couple of feet smaller each way than yours but with 8' ceilings. The Duetta Signatures really show what they can do in large rooms. At 5' out from the front wall and over 8' from any side walls my bass responce only begins to drop off at around 27hz in my room. I have a Krell Ksa-250 for power amp.

The Diva would be a step up but will require bi-amp and are much harder to place, this should not be a problem for you unless you have the WAF problem that some must deal with, my room is dedicated so I would love to own a pair of Diva's. That said, I don't ever feel like I need the larger Diva's. (I would just like to have them..If you know what I mean!!).

The Centaur Minors: I owned these speakers before I bought my Duetta Signatures, they were used in another room and a second system. The potential that I could hear in these small hi-breds are what caused me to move to the much larger D Sig's. I had a Krell Kav-500 on them and thought it a great match at 240 watts per. and never found them dull or lifeless?, I did find them to be a little bright at times and their bass responce at around 60hz. to lend their use to mostly well recorded Jazz and vocal reproduction..not a good rock music speaker. As far as the cone and the ribbon integration..I hear you on that one but I find that to be true with every hi-bred I have ever listened to unless the X-over is at very low fqz's which requires the ribbons to be almost full-range. I do have twin VMPS sub's on my Duetta Sig's from 35hz-17hz but my sub amp hardly gets a work-out at these fqz's.

Dave

Sogood51 - Thanks for your very thorough and thoughful response. You were dead right about the Apogee "sound".

I just picked up a pair of Calipers (non-signature) and HOLY CRAP, they sound good! As I mentioned, my room is quite large, but the amount of FULL RANGE sound coming out of these panels is nothing short of amazing.

Previously, I was using a pair of Acoustat 1+1s which were truly outstanding in their own right, but these Apogees are really something special. I've also owned Magnepan 1.6QRs and, while I'd still give them the nod in overall cohesiveness and transparency, the Apogees seem more dynamic and certainly dig deeper than any panel I've ever heard.

I listened to Lyle Lovett's "Road to Ensanada" and on the title track, there's a 5-string bass playing an "open B" (lowest string on a bass is usually E which I believe translates to 41hz? - someone correct me if I'm wrong - A 5-string bass adds almost another half-octave to the lower register so low B equals almost exactly 30hz).

On many speakers...like the Acoustats...this is totally inaudible. To give a point of reference, I also had a pair of Vandersteen 2CEs in the same room. Vandersteens are famous for their full range and they had a hard time with this track. The Vandies could produce the note, but it was shelved down several dbs. Consequently, they could not pressurize the room where you actually felt air move.

I can't begin to imagine what the larger Apogees are capable of. The Divas must be quite spectacular!

My only gripe(s) is that the midrange still seems a little "thick" compared to Magnepan 1.6s and the highs are a tad rolled off. But what they do, they do extremely well. My other complaint is that they're not exactly kid-friendly - or wife-friendly for that matter.

Anyway - thanks again for the assistance.