wilson vs competitor battle demo

Yes, this has been described repeatedly in the press/internet ...

The first question I have is whether anyone was there to witness this silly exercise and can they tell us their take on the challenge.

Second, if in fact the Sophia won the challenge, what does that really tell us about the speaker/sources etc.

Third, can the iPod playing wav files really outperform a reference level CD player ????

Fourth, how much about the Sophia hype should we believe. Has Stereophile, Wes Phillips etc. all been bought by Dave Wilson ??? Is the Sophia truly a musical speaker, or is it an overly detailed, overly analytic, cold speaker that suffers from listener fatique.

My bias is that the speaker has an initial sucking in phenomenon that may be soon lost on extended listening. Sure it is detailed, focused, dynamic, paced etc. ... but could you live with it for hours on end ???? I think this initial impression works wonders in brief auditions and audio shows. Perfect, for Dave's shenanigans.

I have read about this demo over and over, TAS wrote a small blip about it in their last issue. The point of the silly little exercise is to train people into thinking they should spend upwards of 80% of their money on speakers and the remains on source and amps. Dave Wilson makes, markets and sells speakers, not source or amps. Therefore, trying to convince the audiophile to spend all allowable funds on speakers is his objective.

The problem with this demo is that in order to fairly show the Wilsons with the iPod, he should have used two different sources on the same speaker. What would the iPod sound like against the Krell on the same speakers. Suddenly there is much more of a reference point.

This same demo was done in reverse years ago with a Linn CD12 sondek, it was hooked up to an entry level intergrated amp and a set of PSB alpha speakers ($200 CDN) giving off "reference sound". Everything was covered while the demo was given. This demo was to illustrate the importance of the souce, over the speakers.

These demos must be taken with a grain of salt. They are never true science experiments, the intagibles are too many. They are designed to make the consumer think that the right path is via source, speaker, amp, (depending on what the company that performs the demo happens to sell)

Dave Wilson would probably never suggest buying an Apple iPOD as a main source to his speakers, but he might if it meant you'd buy his speakers instead of splitting half the amount to source and the other to the speakers.

in response to Tom Y comment below in quotes

"Fourth, how much about the Sophia hype should we believe. Has Stereophile, Wes Phillips etc. all been bought by Dave Wilson ??? Is the Sophia truly a musical speaker, or is it an overly detailed, overly analytic, cold speaker that suffers from listener fatique.

My bias is that the speaker has an initial sucking in phenomenon that may be soon lost on extended listening. Sure it is detailed, focused, dynamic, paced etc. ... but could you live with it for hours on end ???? I think this initial impression works wonders in brief auditions and audio shows. Perfect, for Dave's shenanigans."

The Wilson Sophia is an amazingly detailed and does require synergisty system matching just like any other component, and it will sound fatiquing, tizzing, etc if hooked up to Krell, Classe, or ML Electronics.

Put Wilson with ARC,CJ,LAMM,Theta,Rowland,VTL etc... and watch and listen to the magic!

I'm a planar guy and the Wilsons were the only (small footprint speaker) that could provide the detail and air that the big Magnepan's but with dynamics and weight! It took me 3 years of traveling and listening to dealer setups. I heard a lot of bad dealer demo setups with the electronics mentioned above to make my ears bleed.

By the way, does anyone know what were the competing speakers ???

B&W-- don't know which model.

A friend of mine went to the demo. I, unfortunately, was out eating lunch at the time.