Wilson WP7 vs JM Lab Alto BE vs Avalon Eidolon


I currently own a pair of Vienna mahlers. system is VPI HRX, Dynavector XV 1, pass Xono, VTL 7.5, cj prem 8a monoblocks with transparent ref XL speaker cable.

I am looking for a speaker that will have a tighter bass but maintain extension (Vienna's bass is quite fat and they probably don't have great synergy with my tubes), not as laid back as the Mahlers ( whether that means forward or neutral I am not sure)more transparency and more extenstion in the treble. The mahlers also need a bit of volume to sound exciting.
basically my system sounds warm and laid back. I listen to a lot of pop rock, alternative as well as most other genre's.

looking at my spec's Wilson would probably fit the bill best and I know Wilson's like transparent cables, however I keep hearing that the JM BE tweeter is SOTA.

If anyone has heard all three of both, you thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

I am going to try and listen to the speakers within the next couple of weeks, but big question is what speaker do i take home to listen to.

cheers SR
downunder
I have heard the WP7's and the Eidolon's. I have not heard the JM Lab Alto BE's though.

That being said, the Eidolon is one of the finest speakers I have every heard. A friend has some and has a similar set up to your own. He has the same turntable, and runs all tubes as well (ARC Ref. 1 preamp and VTL MB-450 monoblocks) and he uses a Koetus Urushi with a Aesthetix Rhea phono preamp. It is the finest stereo I have heard in my life. (This probably includes stereo dealers and stereo shows, since he has a fairly large dedicated room for his stereo.)

The Eidolons have the rare ability to just disappear from the soundstage. Mid-range and treble are great. The bass is very, very good (it goes down flat to a little below 30hz), but does not go quite down to 20hz. (Plenty deep for most people as only the very largest of rooms can really handle deep bass without sounding boomy.) As far as looks go, it is awesome looking, especially with one of the "fancy finishes", like the bird's eye maple.

The WP7 is a good speaker and it excels at accuracy. It soundstages well, just not as well as the Eidolon, IMHO. Its looks are ok, but not really in the same class as the Eidolons. (But then again, what is?)

I would definitely pick the Eidolons before the WP7 myself. I like the WP7, but love the Eidolons.

My two cents worth anyway/
The WP7 will go lower and will have tighter bass with your tubes because with the purchase of WP7's you will get an extra set of ports for using tube equipment (works with less damping) The transparent cabling Synergy is excellent (just check my system out.. also if you are in Phoenix you are welcome to give it a listen) The WP7's are also more efficent at 92-93db to 1 watt. The CJ warmth will be a perfect match with the WP7's.

Kurt Tank- If you didn't hear the WP7's image then they weren't setup correctly. Eidolons in the curly burl are FINE!

I've heard Eidolons before they are more layed back than the Wilson and less energy with tubes.

There is a Wilson dealer in Dallas (Krystal Clear) that has the VTL 7.5 preamp, VTL 450's and WP7's hooked up with transparent cabling and they actually spent time setting up the system... it sounds amazing (but I still prefer my Lamm's) If you take a pair home to demo, make the dealer set them up and leave you the manual (so you can verify that he did it correctly (Less than half the wilson dealers I have visited have their Wilsons dialed in to image correctly).

I chose the WP7's because I was a Planar/Electrostat fan and I use to play the double bass and the WP7's got that perfectly! but with dynamics, depth and volume! (I didn't have room for soundlabs or want to buy that type of high watt tube amplification)

Enjoy- your at a level where it's hard to be disappointed.
You indicate you get an extra set of ports for using with tube eqyuipment. Could you expand on what that actually means?.
Not sure if the WP7 has extra phyisical ports or additional material to stuff into the ports.

thanks for your help

Shane