Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Grand

I just sold my Strauss's and got Proac D25.. So far with only about 20 hours on them and even with new speaker cables the Proac's crush the Vienna's..

I just sold my Strauss's and got Proac D25.. So far with only about 20 hours on them and even with new speaker cables the Proac's crush the Vienna's..

LOL. I still get a good chuckle out of replys like this. My new Brand X crushes my old Brand Y. Hehe. How about 'this new amp smokes that amp'. Great stuff. It's fun having people make mountains out of molehills.

It's fine that you're happy with your new speakers, we all like to feel our purchases are valid. C'mon though, let's be realistic. If your new Proac's CRUSH the Strauss, you obviously had:

A) A damaged pair of the Strauss.
B) No idea how to set the Strauss up in your room.
C) Both of the above.

Now I'm not saying it's not possible for you to not like your new Proac's better, but using the word 'crush' is so juvenile. It really insults the intelligence of the reader.

FWIW, I have a pair of Strauss, and a couple of audiophile friends who love my Strauss. One owns a pair of Dynaudio 3.4's the other currently owns a pair or Von Schweikert VR-4 Jr's. They would gladly trade. I've also owned and or auditioned speakers from Soliloquy, Silverline, Dynaudio, JMLabs, Buggtussel, Canton, Mirage, Meadowlark, Proacs, Von Schweikert's, and Legacy, to name a few. I've been in this hobby for 30 years, long enough to know that in this league, no one 'crushes' another one unless there is damage or a setup malfunction.

So in essence, it's fine that you prefer the sound of Proacs. In your system, with your tastes in music, they may be the best choice. There is no need to be so juvenile about it though. (My dad can kick your dad's butt), yeah, right.

Cheers,
John

Wow I didn't realize that my Proac's out performing my Strauss's was Juvenile. Of course maybe what's juvenile is making my simple statement of opinion into a personal attack. Maybe I should consult the audiophile verbage guidelines next time so that I don't use any language that you find juvenile. Maybe making a simple statement that I find the D25's better than the Strauss, and then raging on me personally is what's juvenile. FWIW I got the Strauss's new from Sumiko, so they weren't damaged. I've been doing audio both as a hobby and for a living for more than 35 years. I've learned how to set up speakers from some of the best in the business, so I doubt that was it. I thought that it was a given that all of this audiophile BS is basically just an opinion based on room , equipment, listener preference. Guess I was wrong. Since you like your Strauss's so much I guess that the D25's couldn't possibly sound better to me. Here's a little story about Audiophille nervosa.. I few years back I had gotten to the point where I had a lot of $$ tied up in my system: VPI TNT, Graham arm, VDH Grasshopper, Levinson electronics, Aerial's, all Transparent reference, Theta dac, etc, etc.. All told upwards of $60K in gear. So as many audiophiles do I had all of my lp's and cd's lined up for an afternoons listening session. Get the wife and kids out of the house sit back for a relaxing afternoons listening session. About a hour or so into it I realized what a beautiful day it was out side, how I was ALONE, and how as much money I tied up in my system, and how it really didn't sound like real music being played in a real place. The next day I went out and bought a new BMW MOTORCYCLE,and downsized the gear. Rekindeled the passion from my youth for riding and haven't looked back. Now I have a little system, and a couple of real nice bikes 03 BMW K1200RS, 02 MV Augusta F4, and the best part is I have a bunch of good friends that I see regularly. I spend much of my free time riding beautiful roads, ever carve the twisties on Skyline Drive through the Shendoa Valley on a perfect spring day, while some great tunes are playing through your Shure E5's feed from an Ipod? It just deosn't get any better.. Of course I could be sitting at home pretending to live while farting around with my hifi..... Nah

With 35 years of expeience you should realize how silly the word 'crush' is. You did NOT make a simple statement about how you find the D25's better then the Strauss. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that statement. You came out with an outrageous exaggeration, without any description. I have three teenage sons, and that's how they talk. ' My new video game slaughters my old one.' 'This cd crushes their last cd.' Statements like that lead me to beleive that you were a novice, because that's how I hear novices talk (the new Nordost cable kills the Cardas). No description of sound, no objective regarding pluses' and minuses', differences, personal musical tastes, etc.

FWIW, I'm not saying that the Strauss are the best speakers out there. I've heard better. I never even said they were better than your D25's, I haven't heard the D25's. However,I would never make a statement like the Strauss crush the Bose though, because as my experience grows, so does my ability to place thoughts into words.

I'm glad your happy riding your bike, it obviously has re-kindled your youth. If you don't like hifi equipment, that's fine also.

Regards,
John

Never mind, I just read another post where evidently BAT VK1000's will 'tear apart' Krell amps. Looks like I have to adapt. My VPI turntable will obliterate the Linn tables! There, I'm getting the hang of it.

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