Will a Wilson Maxx be possible in a small room


I currently play With Wilson Puppy 6 and I place it in a room of about 35 suqare meter (350 square foot). This goes well but I still miss ultimate power in the bass.

Now I have a change to upgrade to a Maxx. Will it be possible in a relatively small room. How far do they need to stand from the wall. I can sit about 4m away from the speakers, will that be enough.

I think the Puppy 7 will never add the bass of the Puppy 6 to the room.

Peter
krellfan2002


Hi,

I have owned in succession the Sophias, 7's+ WatchDog and now the Maxx 2's sans WatchDog. When I initially purchased the Maxx 2's I too was concerned as I had a room with dimensions on the small side 19 X 16 X 8 --plus bad dimensions (the 16 w X 8 h) which resulted in a noticeable 40-50hz bump. I'll just state that the Maxx 2's solved all bass articulation and weight problems to the degree that I thought the WatchDog expendable, and in my room they literally eliminated the bass issues I had with the 7's--which most owners will acknowledge have a slight forwardness in the upper-mid bass. I think in part the Maxx 2's cabinet size acts to diffuse unwanted standing waves near corners, though I suggest bringing them out as far as is reasonable in your room for maximum stage depth and clarity.

I now have a new home with a specially designed room by Rives Audio with roughly double the size and the results were that much more astounding--although I could have lived happily with the Maxx 2's in my older room and home. Amps with some good power are recommended IMO although they could be driven easily by the Lamm ML2's (18w)--I use the OTL 200watt Atmasphere MA2 mk2.3's. I do not think you would EVER regret the upgrade. From the 6's to the Maxx or Maxx 2 is not subtle in any way and in some ways, they are entirely different speakers, with the Maxx 2's holding the line between the richness of the best Sonus Faber speaker (Stradivarius) and the detail and laser-like articulation of the 6's/7's.

Hope this helps!

Grant
"Justin, I am amazed that you can get "excellent" results in a room "half the size?" From my experience, speakers of this size need oodles of room, to breathe, for "excellent" results. IMHO"

Hi Warrenh,

Yes, I get excellent sound in my 12 x 15 room with the Watts/Puppies 5. They do not really have big sizes (only big price tags, unfortunately) and they are specifically designed for near-field listening. I place the speakers along the short axis of the room (one to two feet away from all boundaries) and use the rule of third to position the speakers and my listening spot along the long axis of the room. The sound from the Watts/Puppies 5 blends immediately in front of the speakers so that as you sit at the top of the equilateral triangle that you form with your toed-in speakers the holographic effect is quite palpable, especially with a digital switching amp. The huge sound stage is thrown several feet behind and beyond the sides of the speakers! That's also the closest I've come with cone speakers to the speed and inner details of electrostatic speakers without the bass and image-size limitations of the latter.

The Velodyne DD-15 has an amazingly small foot-print (18" x 18" x 20"H) that belies it's powerful impact. With the myriad of sound adjustments, it can be perfectly tailored to disappear in a small room like mine--the DD-18 would have over-powered the room.

So overall, the combination of Watts/Puppies 5 and Velodyne DD-15 is just about the perfect system for my pocket-size listening room.

What a timely question for me as I am selling my MAXX to downsize to a monitor with an eventual subwoofer. My present room is 15.6W X 10.2H X 18.4L. The MAXX have a big sound, but I felt my bass response was never as good as my former room that was easily 6-8 ft longer and a foot wider. The longer room allowed the MAXX to show its great bass. I find the sound in my present room to be excellent left to right, but lacking any real depth in soundstage. In nutshell, the size of the MAXX limited its ability to image as before. Maybe the newer MAXX two would do better, but I am not willing to spend the $6K to find out. I bought a pair of Caravelle's that in comparison to the MAXX in my room were simply amazing...equaled the MAXX midrange, outperformed its tweeter and only lacked in the bass without a sub. With a mediocre sub, the sound was very satisfying and in many ways better. Not to say the MAXX isn't a good speaker, it just couldn't perform in my room. Why not take money off the table and still have great sound?
I hope that helps. By the way, I drove the MAXX with Krell 750's a KCT and KPS-28C CDP until I switched out to a tube system.
Dear Justin: +++++ " So overall, the combination of Watts/Puppies 5 and Velodyne DD-15 is just about the perfect system for my pocket-size listening room. " +++++

I can see that you only use one DD-15 ( pocket-size room ) and that you are satisfied with it. I'm thinking that for a proper stereo music reproduction at your home maybe two DD-12 could be better than your today combination.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear Raul,

I did try two 12" Velodynes. They did not work well in my small room--what was I thinking?. Each sub had to be near each speaker so placement became a nightmare. They were tried behind me but blending then was far from optimal. And in both cases, I can still hear where the subs were because the optimal crossover for 12" woofers was still a tad high. Lower it, and the bass output suffered. I sold both subs to a friend and he is ecstatic about the results in his large video room .

I also tried a single 18". It completely overwhelmed the room. Sold again to another friend with a bigger house. Another happy customer.

With a single DD-15, the big woofer allows me to set the crossover low enough that I cannot hear the sub's location. Thanks to the servo motor and fast digital amp, the 15" woofer is quick enough to blend well with the Watts/Puppies. It completely disappears and the bass sounds like it's coming from the middle or the speakers, not from the sub.

I now quite content with the arrangement.