New KT150 tubes?


Has anyone any experience with these pretty new tubes. There are already one or 2 amps I know of, that use them. The review of one of these amps in a UK magazine suggested they were a little warmer and more natural sounding than the nearly new KT120's

The article also suggested they were a straight swap for KT120 based amps, with no adjustment necessary. They are more than twice the cost of KT120's, but still not too costly compared with NOS tubes. I know changing from KT88's or 90's to 120's. did require some amp modification. I have an ARC reference 75 and might want to try the new tubes at some point, ARC don't seem to have a customer E-mail service, to ask the question
david12
I'm confused...Only ARC has matched sets? Have other matched sets proved unreliable? I don't understand what that means since you say they haven't approved them for use, but then I'm easily confused. Many Ebay sellers know what they're doing and are rated by the customers so there's that, and my experience with non frozen or overpriced KT120s worked out fine.
@Wolf .... of course not Wolf. Many reputable vendors match tubes. It just happens to be IME that ARC matched power tubes bias much easier in my amp. Btw, for the sake of clarity, I am referring to KT-120s.

As an fyi, my amp has a bias "set" tube and a "slave" companion for each pair of tubes, which are configured in push-pull topology. The way the tubes are biased is that I can adjust bias (65 mV)for the set tube, but not the slave.

If the tubes are well matched, the slave will show a bias voltage ranging between 57 mV and 73 mV. If the slave tube bias is out that range, the amp will not operate within spec.

As I said, even though I have bought "matched" tubes from private venders, sometimes the slave doesn't fall within the spec range. IME, this hasn't occurred with ARC spec'd tubes.

Now, as to the KT-150s, that's right, ARC has not blessed using that tube ... yet. Will it work?? Dunno. Some have tried it in their ARC amps and report great results. Will it hurt the amp? Dunno. Will just have to wait for ARC to approve the tube.

Wolf ... like most A'goners, my gear represents a significant monetary investment. In particular, my amp is a pricey piece of kit. Maybe I'm just being over-cautious, ... but until ARC says the KT-120 will not damage my amp, I'm not experimenting. I will defer gratification.

Cheers.
I purchased a quad of kt150s from uncle kev at upscale.

I've had them in my primaluna prologue premium integrated for about three weeks now, replacing the stock el-34s. Wow! what an upgrade. Finally giving me that deep bass punch; it struck me like I bought a new amp when i dropped the needle on Talking Heads Stop Making Sense. At the same time all the sweet midrange is still there.

Absolutely no issues. The tube cage does need to be removed
Can I ask a stupid question, plainly, if you are using an auto bias amp, you need a matched pair or quad of tubes. If you are using an amp, like the ARC power amps, where you have to set the bias yourself, does it matter if they are matched or not?

I agree with Bifwynne, I am not going to put KT150's in my ARC ref 75, until ARC says it is ok. It is the most expensive bit of kit I have ever bought and I can't afford for it to go up in smoke, or to void my warranty, by making the change.

In fact I have just bought a really nice 2nd hand Skoda car with low mileage. With a trade in, it cost about the same as the ARC. It makes you think how your sense of what is good value, can get a bit warped, in this hobby. Not that I am complaining about the ARC, it is a wonderful amp, I hope to be still using in 15 years. I suppose it's a question of which one of us blows a capacitor first, sobering thought