New KT150 tubes?


Has anyone any experience with these pretty new tubes. There are already one or 2 amps I know of, that use them. The review of one of these amps in a UK magazine suggested they were a little warmer and more natural sounding than the nearly new KT120's

The article also suggested they were a straight swap for KT120 based amps, with no adjustment necessary. They are more than twice the cost of KT120's, but still not too costly compared with NOS tubes. I know changing from KT88's or 90's to 120's. did require some amp modification. I have an ARC reference 75 and might want to try the new tubes at some point, ARC don't seem to have a customer E-mail service, to ask the question
david12
Can I ask a stupid question, plainly, if you are using an auto bias amp, you need a matched pair or quad of tubes. If you are using an amp, like the ARC power amps, where you have to set the bias yourself, does it matter if they are matched or not?

I agree with Bifwynne, I am not going to put KT150's in my ARC ref 75, until ARC says it is ok. It is the most expensive bit of kit I have ever bought and I can't afford for it to go up in smoke, or to void my warranty, by making the change.

In fact I have just bought a really nice 2nd hand Skoda car with low mileage. With a trade in, it cost about the same as the ARC. It makes you think how your sense of what is good value, can get a bit warped, in this hobby. Not that I am complaining about the ARC, it is a wonderful amp, I hope to be still using in 15 years. I suppose it's a question of which one of us blows a capacitor first, sobering thought
@David12, you asked "if you are using an auto bias amp, you need a matched pair or quad of tubes. If you are using an amp, like the ARC power amps, where you have to set the bias yourself, does it matter if they are matched or not?"

Yes, ... I think it does matter for the reason I explained above. In both the ARC Ref 75 and Ref 150, each tube pair has a "set" tube and a "slave" tube. As you know, only one tube, the "set" tube takes the bias adjustment. The "slave" tube bias has to read between 58 mV and 73 mV in order to be in spec. So matching is important.

In addition, and this comment (or better, "guess") is best expanded on by techs like Gary (Hifigeek1). Gary is an authorized ARC service tech. That is there may be other electrical parameters that should be matched, like power output. Obviously, if that is a key spec, I intuit that in a push-pull configuration, if tube output power doesn't match within spec, the waveform could be distorted. I'll stop there because I am now way north of my pay-grade.

Bruce
Traded some e mails with Kal at ARC. He reported that ARC is still doing life testing on the KT-150. Kal declined to provide any further information or advice. That's all there is to report.
Wait...it's been another 2 days of waiting for Kal's testing results...I can't handle the suspense...I'm in audio LIMBO...